1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

Comcast SportsNet Houston -- Current Providers

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Clutch, Oct 10, 2012.

?

Who do you blame for the unavailability of Rockets games/CSN Houston?

  1. Mostly CSN Houston (Partially owned by the Rockets)

    555 vote(s)
    55.2%
  2. The TV Providers (Direct TV, AT&T, etc.)

    114 vote(s)
    11.3%
  3. Both Sides Equally

    337 vote(s)
    33.5%
  1. The Cat

    The Cat Member

    Joined:
    Jan 24, 2000
    Messages:
    20,836
    Likes Received:
    5,432
    Go find the "I hate Comcast and want to b**** unchecked" thread and check in there. This one is for everyone to discuss the issue like adults. Sorry.
     
  2. The Beard

    The Beard Member

    Joined:
    Oct 31, 2012
    Messages:
    11,401
    Likes Received:
    7,165
    Yea well, you watch the game and then come on the thread that is MOSTLY people who CANT watch the game you just watched, and you back up the company that runs the channel.

    I can not speak for anyone but myself, but i'd rather you nor anyone else from comcast come on here and speak well of that company while i can't watch a team that i have supported since i was about 9 years old

    so enjoy the game dude, i'll stay here on this thread and it will continue to sicken me when you try to defend comcast
     
  3. The Cat

    The Cat Member

    Joined:
    Jan 24, 2000
    Messages:
    20,836
    Likes Received:
    5,432
    It's not about "defending" anyone. I blame Comcast just as much as I do the providers. I think both sides have ****ed up here and each has done a poor job of representing their audience.

    I just want to discuss the subject like adults and talk about what might get a deal done, as opposed to ranting "**** CUMcast" and act like one major cable conglomerate is out to get us while the other is the defender of all that is virtuous in the world. There's plenty of blame to go around, and perhaps if we engage in substantive discussion, we can come up with some legitimate ideas, as studogg did a couple of pages ago.
     
  4. The Beard

    The Beard Member

    Joined:
    Oct 31, 2012
    Messages:
    11,401
    Likes Received:
    7,165
    Haha, you say you want to discuss this like an adult, and then act like we can come up with a solution. lol, i'm sure we can come up with a solution on here that your boys at comcast and all the other will agree to . .lol

    enjoy watching the games man, i'm glad some of yall can watch them. the rest of us can't though, and there is nothing i can say that will make you understand what it is like to support a team for decades and then have that taken away from you . . YOU DO NOT GET IT . . .so keep supporting comcast "like an adult" ok, you keep on doing that, and heck man, we may just come up with a solution here, you know, if you use adult language and talk like adults huh, mr adult . . .
     
  5. The Cat

    The Cat Member

    Joined:
    Jan 24, 2000
    Messages:
    20,836
    Likes Received:
    5,432
    If your claim is that not getting the games puts folks like you in an emotional position so unthinkably bad that I can't possibly "get it"... then how can you possibly be objective enough to discuss the situation? When you put it in those terms, it makes you seem less objective than anyone.

    I have no "boys" in this fight. I just don't believe that quitting and namecalling is the answer. I've listened to my mom call me, almost in tears, multiple times this year asking why she can't get the games. It affects me. I just want to try and do whatever we can to rationally talk about it and perhaps come up with a better strategy to help get a deal done. I don't see what yelling and cursing and blaming only one side of a clearly complex dispute really accomplishes.
     
  6. Kam

    Kam Member

    Joined:
    Jan 16, 2002
    Messages:
    30,476
    Likes Received:
    1,322
    Mayor Pants Suit chimed in. I actually saw her today...

    Mayor Parker says CSN Houston carriage dispute ‘intolerable’ for fans, taxpayers

    Mayor Annise Parker, in her first extended public comments on the carriage dispute involving Comcast SportsNet Houston, said today that the impasse between the network and major cable and satellite providers was “intolerable” and that it was unfair that many Houston residents who helped pay for the city’s downtown sports facilities are unable to watch Astros and Rockets games on television.

    Parker’s comments at the beginning of a question-and-answer session after today’s City Council meeting came less than a week before the Astros’ broadcast schedule launches on CSN Houston, the six-month-old regional sports network owned by the Astros, Rockets and NBC Sports Group.

    CSN Houston is available on Comcast, Phonoscope and other smaller area cable systems accounting for about 40 percent of the 2.2 million television households in the Houston area. But it has not been picked up by DirecTV, Dish Network or AT&T U-verse, so subscribers to those and other services have been unable to watch Rockets games on CSN Houston and run the risk of missing Astros games beginning next week.

    “It’s a real shame that we can’t reach a businesslike resolution to a problem that keeps Houstonians – who have paid for the venues that these teams play in – from watching their hometown teams,” Parker said. “… I encourage all sides to get together. I don’t have a role in this, but as a fan, as someone who cares about sports in Houston, this situation is intolerable and they need to get together and get it done.”

    Parker said she has discussed the impasse with the teams and “in a casual fashion” with providers but not in her capacity as mayor.

    She said she would be “happy to host a marathon bargaining session if I thought it would help.”

    CSN Houston launched last October with Rockets’ regular-season games but has been unable to come to an agreement with major carriers on a monthly subscriber fee for the network. Officials with DirecTV and U-verse have said that there is limited demand for the channel and that the subscriber fee being sought by NBC is too high.

    Network officials have declined to disclose the subscriber fee they are seeking, but it is believed to be an average of about $3.40 per customer per month across the five-state area in which they hope to distribute Astros games. Rockets games are available in a smaller area because of NBA territorial restrictions.

    “It is about dollars,” Parker said. “I respect the fact that a cable provider has to provide what they consider the best value for their shareholders and for their customers but, again, the taxpayers of Houston paid for these venues, we want the opportunity to watch the major league teams that we support play.

    “I just continue, on behalf of the fans, to urge everybody to come together and get it resolved. We can’t do much for the Rockets season, but surely we can get something done before we lose the entire baseball and soccer seasons, as well.”

    Carriage disputes are not uncommon involving regional sports networks, and city officials in some cases have entered the fray.

    City officials in San Diego earlier this month met with Time Warner Cable officials in an effort to mediate stalled negotiations between Time Warner and Fox Sports San Diego, which airs Padres games. The channel is not available on Time Warner in San Diego, where the cable company services about 22 percent of the market.

    The city’s mayor and city attorney have written Time Warner seeking a resumption of talks with the Padres. Time Warner countered that Fox was seeking an “unreasonable” price hike for its new RSN.

    City and state officials also attempted to mediate in past disputes in New York involving Cablevision and the Yankees’ YES Network and, last year, between Cablevision and Time Warner over the MSG Network, which broadcasts Knicks and Rangers games.

    As an aside, Parker said she also was concerned that Astros games on radio are moving to Clear Channel Media’s 5,000-watt KBME (790 AM) from 50,000-watt KTRH (740 AM).

    “These are business decisions by big league teams, and big league teams have to recognize that fans are part of the equation, just as the cable providers have to recognize that they are not just providing programming, they’re providing a service to the fans in the community,” Parker said. “I find both sides, their stubbornness is problematic.”

    A spokeswoman for the mayor said Parker had received encouragement from parties on both sides of the talks to address the issue. On March 12, she wrote on her Twitter account, @anniseparker, “Comcast sports broadcast dispute dragging on. Fans left hanging. Hope parties work out dispute so broadcast of Stros/Rockets can return.”

    Chronicle staff writer Mike Morris contributed to this report.

    http://blog.chron.com/sportsmedia/2...riage-dispute-intolerable-for-fans-taxpayers/
     
  7. Kam

    Kam Member

    Joined:
    Jan 16, 2002
    Messages:
    30,476
    Likes Received:
    1,322
    reading the comments in the chron gives me a headache. it's like the garm, but 10x more stupid.
     
  8. Rocketman95

    Rocketman95 Hangout Boy

    Joined:
    Feb 15, 1999
    Messages:
    48,984
    Likes Received:
    1,445
    I applaud your stand on behalf of the mom and pop shops that include DirecTV, Dish Network and AT&T. They really appreciate your help.
     
  9. Chilly_Pete

    Chilly_Pete Member

    Joined:
    Aug 17, 2001
    Messages:
    2,877
    Likes Received:
    2,034
    I am moving soon and Comcast is available to my new location. Too bad the Rockets season is going to be over by the time I get moved in. :(
     
  10. davidio840

    davidio840 Member

    Joined:
    Jul 14, 2010
    Messages:
    8,518
    Likes Received:
    3,879
    I finally heard the new commercial this morning and... Wow. It is just as pathetic as Contrash. I can't believe they have the audacity to put an ad like that out.... Wait a minute, yes I can.
     
  11. CometsWin

    CometsWin Breaker Breaker One Nine

    Joined:
    May 15, 2000
    Messages:
    28,028
    Likes Received:
    13,051
    How the hell am I helping UVerse by calling them to complain and getting money off my bill? They've never put out any ads telling me how I can help them because they need the leverage to make more money.
     
  12. Scionxa

    Scionxa Member

    Joined:
    Nov 16, 2010
    Messages:
    4,155
    Likes Received:
    224
    Was able to setup OpenVPN through "private internet access" vpn service on my router with DD-WRT. Now I got the league pass app on Xbox to work and not be blacked out. Don't even have to hook up my laptop via HDMI.

    I win.
    Loving my DIRECTV too.

     
  13. HR Dept

    HR Dept Member

    Joined:
    May 31, 2012
    Messages:
    6,792
    Likes Received:
    1,223
    Ok, please explain more. I know that I've read about people's Xbox Live accounts being blacklisted because of hiding thier IPs.
     
  14. Scionxa

    Scionxa Member

    Joined:
    Nov 16, 2010
    Messages:
    4,155
    Likes Received:
    224
    Not sure about all that to be honest. I just setup my router to route all internet traffic through the VPN and get it to work.

    It's a lot easier to setup the VPN on a computer and use an hdmi cord to the TV. Still get that good HD
     
  15. danielcp0303

    danielcp0303 Member

    Joined:
    Jul 15, 2009
    Messages:
    688
    Likes Received:
    24
  16. larsv8

    larsv8 Member

    Joined:
    Nov 11, 2007
    Messages:
    21,663
    Likes Received:
    13,916
    I really don't understand how Comcast can afford to lose 60% viewership and not have any TV advertisement hit.

    Surely the ad revenue lost from the hold out is more than the money gap between the two entities.
     
  17. Dave2000

    Dave2000 Member

    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2001
    Messages:
    11,091
    Likes Received:
    813
    whats worse is that they show commercials about it on local channels. I saw one on my OTA TV I still have that's not connected to my separate satellite connection in another room, and still see them, its a slap in the face really, it's like I can't get away from their stupid plea....

    can't I watch my syndicated Friends on CW39 in peace? I can understand if it was on NBC, since it's Comcast owned, but this was on another network...

    pathetic....

    btw, whats this garbage with not getting the channel on the "basic" tier? Every provider has their regional sports channel in most cases on their 2nd "tier" if you consider these BS "family" channel packages, most cases less than 80 channels, the basic tier.
     
  18. J.R.

    J.R. Member

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 2008
    Messages:
    114,379
    Likes Received:
    177,376
    Surprised - I am not.
     
  19. Refman

    Refman Member

    Joined:
    Mar 31, 2002
    Messages:
    13,674
    Likes Received:
    312
    I find it odd that Hutchings chose to phrase it as DirecTV not wanting to carry our RSN on the basic tier. Our RSN, Fox Sports Southwest, is the same RSN that has been on the basic tier in these parts for quite some time. What they are really asking is to carry a second RSN on the basic tier. Perhaps the carriers think that $6.20 a onth per subscriber for two RSNs is a little steep. Keep in mind that they are contractually obligated to carry FSSW in this region.
     
  20. studogg

    studogg Member

    Joined:
    Jul 1, 2002
    Messages:
    6,057
    Likes Received:
    2,661
    I consider that the fault of the carriers that they didn't negotiate an effective clause in the existing RSN contract that required the continued coverage it's local market packages or the ability to void contract or reduce rate to 'market'
     

Share This Page