New Orleans also struggled with Chris Paul in the lineup so would some of you take Brooks over him to?
Stat-wise Brooks is not going to have the same season he had last year due to Yao coming back and getting most of the touches... He will however, I believe, be more efficient. Do more with less. etc.
Collison as a rookie got similar chance like Brooks in his 2nd year, and did a whole lot better than AB at that point. Even if AB can get better, why can't Collision get better? If anything, Collison has more room to improve than AB, which means a higher ceiling.
This is really a no-brainer... Collison has comparable speed and shooting, can defend fairly well, and has much better innate court vision. Brooks has never shown great court vision and at this point in time, is only a better scorer. You cannot develop court vision, only somewhat compensate for it with experience, something Brooks does not have either. As for people pointing out Collison's higher TO rate, you cannot expect a player (rookie or not) to be suddenly thrust into a starter position and throw away passes as he and the lineup gel.
Stupid post is stupid. That's one of the dumbest cards you can play in this forum. I'll take Brooks, though. It's close.. Ask me in a year or two.
Judging by what New Orleans gave Collison away for, I think it's safe to say they weren't exactly a believer in him. Not that the Honey Bees really have a clue what they're doing. Just saying.
They traded him away for a defensive wing that they desperately need and were unable to unload Posey's contract, presumably to make space to sign someone later and indisputable PT for Paul.
Collison last year, starting: 19 - 9, 4 TO, 48% field, 43% 3PT Brooks last year: 20 - 5, 3 TO, 43% field, 40% 3PT Difficult to argue Brooks was better by the numbers, and no one can defend his lack of ability to set up others. Only possible thing for folks to argue would be that Collison was able to catch teams by surprise since there wasn't much of a scouting report for him. Personally? I think New Orleans was dumb to not just trade out Paul and keep Collison at a tenth of the price. Paul is gone in a year or two no matter what, but they figure he's their only mealticket at the box office.
It was a panic move to try and appease Paul. They wouldn't make that trade if he didn't go public about wanting out.
I didn't read the whole thread, just the first page.. so maybe someone has already said this. But what kind of response did you expect to get on a ROCKETS forum?
I know why New Orleans did this move from their end -- stating the case doesn't make it any less idiotic. The point is you don't make this trade unless: 1) You really don't think he's all that, 2) You're that dead-set upon appeasing your diva franchise player that feels "threatened" by the presence of a promising young backup that could help the team or 3) You just straight up have no idea how to handle this situation. Given that it's the Honey Bees we're talking about, I'd say it's probably a combination of all three. Bottom line: However you dress it up (whether Collison is really that good or not), New Orleans got fleeced in this trade. If a similar offer were on the table for Brooks, Morey would fall out of his chair laughing. I know stating this case doesn't really help settle this Brooks vs. Collison dispute, all I'm saying is there's the possibility that New Orleans knows something that we don't. Maybe, just maybe, his trade value was so low for reason? [And again, I have little confidence in NO's judgment. Just saying there's always that element]
Past performance may have something to do with it. Collison put up stats for half a season. Brooks scored 20+ points on teams like the Lakers and Celtics. Remember that pg most of y'all were crushing on before, the pg from Milwaukee who put up like 24 assists in a game and got signed to a contract in Minny before getting shipped to the Cavs? I remember he had half a season not unlike Collison, and most people (DD included) were saying he was much better than Aaron Brooks. A full season later and where is he now? I'm not saying Collison will be a flash in the pan, but Brooks already has a proven track record. At this point in time he has to be considered better than a rookie who only had a half a season of experience putting up stats on a losing team. Let's not forget that the same team CP3 took to the 2nd round was the one Collison lead to a lottery finish.
Brooks is the better player right now. only thing collison has on brooks is he could pass. Brooks is a 5ft10 scoring/shooting point guard. but brooks is still the better player right now and someone says we should have gotten collision instead of Courtney Lee? thats riduculous Lee is a much better fit and plus if i could pick Lee or Collision i would still pick Lee.
That's foolish. Collison clearly has much higher value. Think of it this way...Rockets got Lee for Ariza. New Orleans got Ariza for Collison AND dumping Posey. And the "only thing Collison has on Brooks is he coul pass".......? Umm, they play point guard, so passing is kind of valued. I also don't get where people come up with the idea that Brooks shoots better. He shot more, but not at a higher %. In fact, he had a worse FG%, 3p%, AND FT%. Let's also mention that this was Collison as a ROOKIE having not really shot the NBA 3 all that often before while Brooks had a far worse Rookie and 2nd year campaign.
Didn't I make this thread like a month ago and everyone was flaming me and begging for it to get locked up? Lol :grin:
Nope, neither of those guys could have led last year's team to a winning record. Morey and Adelman love the guy. Don't worry, he will pass the ball to Yao. DD
