They have quit on Mack Brown and the coaching staff. The effort and concentration level just isn't there. It's surprising this is happening the year after playing in the BCS Championship game.
I'm sorry but "On Notice?" What do you think? The the Horns will be ranked in the Top 10 every year til the end of the world? They are having 1 bad year. Their first bad year since Mac Brown has been there. No school has been able to keep Texas's level of consistency, and many of the ones who came close later were caught for violations. Instead of whining and getting rid of coaches who are doing as well as they possibly can, maybe this season should remind you just how hard it to do what the Horns have done.
DD... this isn't basketball.... "On notice"? Nobody is going to get fired. I don't think you understand how CFB works. You don't get fired for having a bad year after having so many successful years. Few schools have accomplished what Mack has done over his tenure at Texas. Also what rpr52121 said.
He's not really taking credit away from Baylor. He's just saying how terrible the Horns are.... and rightfully so. Texas had so many chances to WIN this game, they had so many mistakes that were unforced (which has been the theme of the season for the Horns). Like I said, I'm not taking anything away from Baylor, they fully earned this victory.... but I didn't consider it an upset.
uhh.... I bolded the part where he was trying to discredit Baylor and minimize their accomplishments. I underlined the part where he talked bad about UT, which was mainly so that he could accomplish his Baylor bashing. Them's some seriously sour grapes.
It's pretty obvious that there need to be changes in the staff and how the program is run. Mack needs to take a more active role in the team, his "I'm the CEO" style of almost total delegation to his assistants is not working. When you, as the head coach of arguably the most high-profile program in the country, get asked post-game questions about the playcalling and schemes and have to say, honestly, "I don't know, you'll have to ask [the OC/DC], he calls the plays", there's a big problem. Personally, I'd let Major call the plays the rest of the year on O, see what happens. Nothing to lose at this point.
Congrats, man! Very cool for Baylor. 3 tough games to go...a 9-3 regular season, 2nd in the South, gets what bowl - Alamo? Holliday? Cotton? p.s. how the **** did yall lose to Tech?
I disagree - I think the effort is there. Concentration, maybe not. But the simple fact is that these players are not very good - across the board. The reality is that the offense was this bad last year too, but Colt/Shipley covered most of it up. The O-Line was pretty bad, all the receivers were terrible (minus Shipley), and the running game was just as horrid. But Shipley could catch anything (and run routes), and Colt could throw balls so accurately that these terrible WRs could catch them. And, of course, Shipley fielded the punts, so you didn't have all these muffed punts. Every year, the team has a bunch of NFL draft picks - this year doesn't look like many at all. That's a talent issue.
This is a weird standard. So anyone who's doing the best they can shouldn't be fired? Working hard is all that's required to be a coach? OU, OSU, USC all managed it. When USC stopped managing it, the coach left. Not coincidentally, these are the teams that consistently out-talent their opponents with top 5 recruiting classes every year.
Completely, 100% agree. Yes, let me call the plays! Oh, I guess you were talking about the other one...
Coaches Poll: 1. Oregon(51) 2. Auburn(4) 3. Boise St.(3) 4. TCU(1) 5. Alabama 6. Utah 7. Wisconsin 8. Ohio St. 9. Oklahoma 10. Nebraska 11. LSU 12. Stanford 13. Arizona 14. Missouri 15. Michigan St. 16. Iowa 17. South Carolina 18. Oklahoma St. 19. Arkansas 20. Virginia Tech 21. Mississippi St. 22. Baylor 23. Nevada 24. Florida St. 25. N.C. State Dropped out No. 22 Miami (Fla.) (5-3, lost to Virginia 24-19), No. 25 Michigan (5-3, lost to Penn State 41-31). Others receiving votes: Hawaii (7-2) 59; Northwestern (6-2) 24; Syracuse (6-2) 14; Central Florida (6-2) 13; Maryland (6-2) 9; Miami (Fla.) (5-3) 5; Florida (5-3) 4; Illinois (5-3) 4; San Diego State (6-2) 4; Michigan (5-3) 3; Northern Illinois (7-2) 2.
AP Poll: 1. Oregon 2. Boise St. 3. Auburn 4. TCU 5. Alabama 6. Utah 7. Wisconsin 8. Ohio St. 9. Nebraska 10. Stanford 11. Oklahoma 12. LSU 13. Arizona 14. Missouri 15. Iowa 16. Michigan St. 17. Arkansas 18. South Carolina 19. Oklahoma St. 20. Virginia Tech 21. Mississippi St. 22. Baylor 23. N.C. State 24. Florida St. 25. Nevada
You misrepresented my statement. When I said the "best they can", I was referring to the fact that is basically impossible to maintain Top 10 consistency for 10 years in college football now. The fact that he has done that is remarkable. I was not attempting to say trying and working hard is all that is needed. Furthermore, if his amount of effort was what allowed Texas to be so good for so long, then hell yes, his level of working hard and trying is enough. OU - Won a title in 2000. Won the Big 12 consistently, however what is OU's record in BSC games since then? 2-6. Also OU's 2005 season --> 8-4. Weren't ranked after Week 3 until after winning a bowl game. They maintained some consistency but they also had 1 bad year. Scandal with Bomar. OSU - Won title in 2002. Won Big 10 consistently however, the have also failed to win big Non-conference games (0-3) and BCS (3-3 with wins against KSU and ND) games since then. Big 10 credibility has also been suspect over the last decade. Lastly OSU 2004 season --> 9-4, unranked skirted 24/25 rankings until winning bowl game. Again, 1 bad year. Scandal with Clarett. USC - Won in 2003 & 04. Won consistently and have always been in the conversation, but honestly the Reggie Bush scandal which vacated the 2005 season, Bush's Heisman, a lost Carroll credibility, cut their scholarships by 10 for 2 years, and no bowl games for 2 years has no part in why he left. Right? In the meantime, Texas has had Top 13 finishes from 2000-2009. They just ended a streak of Top 25 finishes of 162 weeks. You know who the other top 10 streaks are? 1. Nebraska, 348 weeks from 1981-2002 2. Florida State, 211 weeks from 1989-2001 3. Florida, 209 weeks from 1990-2002 4. Texas, 162 weeks from 2000-2010 5. Miami (FL), 162 weeks from 1985-1995 6. Michigan, 160 weeks from 1969-1980 7. Oklahoma, 158 weeks from 1970-1981 8. Colorado, 143 weeks from 1989-1997 9. USC, 130 weeks from 2002-2009 10. Notre Dame, 124 weeks from 1987-1994 Think about that. On top of that, Texas, who has had have a number of players with off-field issues, arrests or what have you, have never even been sniff at for any violation. Now, you try to say Mack Brown's CEO method does not work? I'm sorry It worked pretty good for 5 years at UNC and the last 12 years at Texas. All that time with numerous generations of recruits and replacing assistants. Am I saying that NO changes need to be made? Of course not. College football always changes, and to succeed you have have to adapt at least some. Also, every football class and team is different, and the approach may need to be tinkered every so often. However the insane meltdown level of "we need to do whole scale changes" or even implying that Mac Brown is on a hot seat is ridiculous.
Ohio State beat Miami, lost both games to USC and beat Texas at night at Texas. That's 2-2 over the last four OOC regular season games. Ohio States last bowl win was against Oregon last year. With the notable exception of Michigan and Penn State, the Big Ten has been really strong this year especially compared to the PAC 10, big 12 and even the SEC.
One bad season and you are on notice? I think greg davis sucks, but I think mack making this one of the top 5 programs in the nation is pretty impressive.
Big has been strong for 1 year. I referring to the past 10 years. Penn St., Iowa, Wisconsin have all had good years in the past decade true. Have any of them proven themselves against other conferences? Not really. Again, beating Oregon last year is one game. I was referring to long term dominance/respectability in BCS games which most would say is lacking. Miami is a borderline Top 25 team this year and last year. Beating them at the Horseshoe does not qualify as a big time win. I do admit to forgetting OSU beating Texas once, but they also lost once to the Texas which means their big game OOC is still only 1-3. Lastly, they still had one off season and had to deal with a huge scandal even if there were no violations from it.
