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[College Football] Saban to Alabama

Discussion in 'Football: NFL, College, High School' started by Lil Pun, Jan 3, 2007.

  1. Mr. Mooch

    Mr. Mooch Contributing Member

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    So when Notre Dame wins no more than 8-9 games (still very good), and everyone will see that Weis' recruiting isn't what everyone expected, then what? Regardless if that's fair or not, there's going to be extreme pressure from Irish faithful for Weis to win more games than he did this year...even though it's not easy to replace a Quinn.

    ND won't get to a BCS game next year and I think (hope) that writers and the media will finally get the realistic picture that ND is just a above-average mediocre team; they're like an Iowa. (Advantage: the Boise States of the country)

    Again, it's a valid argument to say that Notre Dame does have better recruiting tools (national TV), but it's been proven that it's really ineffective. Five years ago, the hottest team was Miami. Now it's USC.

    There's always going to be very good teams, but only a handful will get streaks of greatness (Georgia may never reach the NC plateau under Richt; this may be Tressel's last great shot with no more Smith; Fulmer reached his success nearly a decade ago; Tuberville had his chance; Miami sure has taken a giant leap backward).

    I do see guys like Pete Carroll and Bob Stoops having teams truly competing for the title every single year. If Notre Dame let go some of their arrogance and assumptions, woke up and realizes what needs to be done, they may have the chance at getting back to actual (not perceived) dominance.

    But the fact that Weis has got the maximum out of Willingham's recruits has paid off; just have to wait and see the next 2-3 years if Weis can recruit Title Talent.
     
  2. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    Don Shula is ripping Saban. Sounds like a bitter old man whose son lost his job. Calls Saban's tenure in Miami disappointing. Says he hurt his credibility with his statements. Also says his son didn't get a fair shot.

    I got the statements from an interview on Cold Pizza.
     
  3. Mr. Mooch

    Mr. Mooch Contributing Member

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    HAHA, if Don was a smart businessman he would've stopped whining a couple of days ago; he still has a restaurant in Birmingham.
     
  4. BMoney

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    I'll go with the opinion of Don Shula any day over Nick Saban. Don Shula won with integrity. Saban is going back to college because his prima donna BS doesn't play with adults.
     
  5. Lil Pun

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    I personally don't think Shula was given a fair shot. This "win now" mentality has got to go in football, college and pro.
     
  6. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    you know what doesn't play with adults, having daddy have your back when you are a 41 year old grown ass man. no matter how you feel about saban or shula that's weak.
     
  7. Lil Pun

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    I thought parents were supposed to have their kids back no matter the age.
     
  8. B-Bob

    B-Bob "94-year-old self-described dreamer"
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    There's a hyperbolic piece by Pat Forde at ESPN (perhaps already mentioned here on in another thread) complaining about coaches not being straight with the media.

    Question: in what profession can an employer and its job candidates openly discuss the search process in public?

    I don't know of one. If I'm applying for a job at another company, I sure don't want to tell my current one right away, to say nothing of other companies. And when I hire someone, I can't discuss the search openly, or I risk a bunch of lawsuits.

    The media, IMHO, is being really stupid about this. They are continually asking questions that only a complete moron would answer in a straight fashion.
     
  9. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    he lost his job, I don't need to hear daddy's take.
     
  10. A_3PO

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    You expect the media to not ask questions? What else should they do?
     
  11. Rocketman95

    Rocketman95 Hangout Boy

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    They shouldn't freak out when they don't get a straight answer.

    All this whining about Saban saying he wasn't taking the job is ridiculous.
     
  12. Lil Pun

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    Blame the media and not Shula then for interviewing him in the first place. Shula is connected to the events though in more ways than one.
     
  13. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    even more reason for him to refrain from commenting. first of all, yes he is close to both situations, but he doesn't know particularly what went on. yes he used to coach the Dolphins, yes his son is the former Alabama coach, and that keeps him from being unbiased. if he wants to make comments, preface them by saying he is taking up for his son.

    I like Don Shula, I don't care about either saban, mike shula, the tide, or the dolphins. I guess i have a larger problem with the nepotism that goes on in coaching on all levels. the guy already has an advantage to million dollar high profile jobs because who his father is, and then when he loses one, his father has to go on the public defense? it just rubs me the wrong way.
     
  14. A_3PO

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    It's isn't the media's job to go easy on people. They should ask each and every appropriate question. So what if it put's the coach on the spot and makes things difficult. That isn't the media's problem. (This is what I was addressing).

    On their reaction to Saban's decision, so be it. The talking heads have a right to express their opinion after the fact. Some of the points made about Saban are right on the money, IMO. They didn't force him to say anything and didn't force him to leave the Dolphins for Alabama. He made his own bed and has to sleep on it. He never should have said he wasn't taking the job. Hopefully other coaches learn from his mistake. When someone talks about integrity and commitment while being a rank opportunist, he/she deserves to get their nose busted.
     
  15. rockbox

    rockbox Around before clutchcity.com

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    Weiss got the most hyped Quarterback prospect since John Elway. Notre Dames problem is that can't play a lick of defense.
     

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