[College Football] Big Ten, Texas have initial talks

The real power struggle in this is with content sellers, FSN and ABC-ESPN, That's where the real fight is because that's where the real money is. The Alumi ... er' political powers wanted to keep the status quo (in typical conservative fashion) as long as they were getting their share of the returns.

It's a network fight and it will eventually be a network dictated solution.

And, it they say they want a Championship game, then they will probably get one.

 

Very interesting. It blows up my idea that the equality is what created the stability in that conference. However, it also means that Texas could have gotten a great deal in a Pac16 too and would have been the big dog (or a big dog) there too.

It does seem very defensive about the revenue splits. Which is interesting because the people he was trying to presumably convince (Texas, OU, A&M) benefit from the splits.

I found that to be weird - almost like a scare tactic. It would make sense if holding together eliminates the 16-team superconferences. But if the 16 team model makes the most $$ sense, then the Big10 will still eventually head in that direction, followed by the SEC. The Pac10 might have a tougher time now due to a lack of available schools, but it seems you'd still get all the negatives but without the positives since the B12 schools wouldn't be in a 16 team conference.

 

there's a sense of....what the hell happens to the NCAA if we go to 4 superconferences....they could start their own tournaments and their own playoff system outside of the NCAA....and there's nothing anyone could do about it.

that was the "can open, worms everywhere" scenario that had people from way outside the Big 12 chiming in saying, "slow down and let's consider the implications of all this!!"

 

he's not the only one talking about this. read the first article i posted this morning.

a bunch of people from outside of the big 12 started contactign big 12 schools asking them to put the brakes on...to consider that no one knows where the mad rush to 16 team conferences is leading....and concerns for the NCAA...and concerns for the idea that this is more and more making a mockery (at least more publicly) of the concept of a student-athlete --- and eventually, some kid is gonna sue us and win the right to be paid for college athletes.

 

This is what it boils down to me. It's another indication that Texas WANTED something different and couldn't make it happen. Damn you, Aggies.

 

I still don't see it as a screw job since we're making substantially more with this deal.

Cliche central here -- let's agree to disagree. Repped for the concern though!

 

I just don't think that's a train you can stop. If the economics are heading in that direction, it's going to happen eventually. You can try to delay it, but the fundamental factors driving it are still there.

 

it's part of it, major...but i promise it's not the whole story.

 

not if gets Congress involved...that's killing the golden goose.

 

ok...this article references, again, the 18 year deal...different from what Chip said this morning....but holy crap!!! FSN going from paying $19.5 million/year to $130 million/year???

http://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/article/140047

The Big 12 was able to stay intact thanks to the promise of an extended media deal from FSN and assurances from ESPN that it would not demand a lower rights fee with two fewer teams. No FSN deal has been signed, and nothing is expected for several weeks at the earliest. But sources say FSN has told Big 12 officials that it would increase its annual payout to as much as $130-$140M per year. It currently pays $19.5M per year for the cable TV rights, a deal that ends following the '11-12 season. As part of its proposed deal, FSN has asked to take control of the conference's third-tier rights that are currently controlled by rights holders IMG, ISP and Learfield, sources said. These rights include radio, local media, third-tier TV rights, corporate sponsorships, and in-stadium and arena signage. It is not known when these rights will be available. Another important component to the Big 12's decision involves ESPN. Big 12 schools were concerned that ESPN would demand a lower license fee, since the conference lost two of its marquee schools -- Colorado and Nebraska. The Big 12 approached ESPN and received assurances that the network would not seek a rebate from its current $60M per year deal that runs through '15-16 (John Ourand, THE DAILY).

 

http://espnaustin.com/audiovault/

2nd link tells the media dollars story through Chip...his interview with Cowherd


"this is set. this is locked. if they sign on the dotted line on this deal, they can't go anywhere without being fined into oblivion by ABC/ESPN"

says ABC/ESPN put all this together....and that it's a 10 year deal. "puts off conference realignment for at least 10 years."


"alabama's academic standards are lower than all 12 Big 12 schools, and that scared schools away from the SEC, ultimately."

 

You know who will end up paying all this new money right?


My cable/internet/security bill already runs about $200. I do get all the college football I can handle, pretty much every game with a camera on site, but I'm not planning on paying a nickel more than I do now. I can do with less.

They will milk this till the teat runs dry.

 

Texas preference: No FB title game

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By Blair Kerkhoff - Posted on 15 June 2010

Texas athletic director DeLoss Dodds said his school’s preference would be not to play a Big 12 football championship game.

The Big 12, which will be down to 10 teams beginning in 2012, has played a title game since its first season in 1996.

Dodds said during a news conference on Tuesday that the Longhorns’ would support complete round-robin in football (nine games) and basketball scheduling (18 games).



Read more: http://campuscorner.kansascity.com/node/929#ixzz0qxai4BL5

 

so that is potentially $12 million per team? i would imagine the big 12 would have to hit some insane milestones to get that kind of money considering espn is paying 60 million/year.

btw does anyone know exactly how people are coming to this 20 million a year number for the big 12 teams?

 

I gonna be prorated, UT gonna get a larger share

 

Edit.

 

Except for UT. UT has it stipulated that they will receive 30 million dollars if the Big 12 is unsatisfactory and forces them to inconveniently reallign in another conference. :grin:

 

I think there was a lot of this in the background and that had a big part of halting this realignment

 

Pac-10 never made sense to me. Losing cu and nu shouldnt impact the confrence stregnth either. CU has been trying to go to the pac 10 for yrs because they view themselves as a pac school. When u cant even muster 3m for a buyout and u play big boy sports, ur in bad shape.

In the end, the hatfields and mccoys like fighting each other and that got the big x the money they wanted. The wine and cheese crowd vs the cheap beer drinkers. Formula 1 vs nascar. They need each other and benefit from playing each other in the same conference.