[College Football] Big Ten, Texas have initial talks

Competition wise? Maybe, but I think we'll have to wait and see what their next move is (if they make one) before making that call.

 

Lets assume what everybody is thinking.

Utah to the Pac 10.

Now let's say everybody else holds pat.

The champion of the Big 12 is now, BCS point wise, the 2nd from the bottom... right above the Big East champ, but behind the Pac 10 and ACC now... and definitely behind the Big 10 and SEC champs.

This makes it significantly harder for UT and OU to chase those national titles now.

If I were a longhorn, I would be pissed at this resolution.

 

Well, it looks to me like Aggie queered a great deal.

Now, it's the Two Musketeers and the 8 Dwarfs. Also, SOS will suffer and keep TX/OK out of the Championship, especially with ESPN pimping other conferences.

And... I apologize for thinking and arguing this realignment thing was more than football money and TV contracts.

 

UT Wins ... Everyone else loses ... all thanks to the A&M BOR and politicians who forced this deal

 

so would it be possible to get TCU and UH in the new big 12? it would make a lot of sense imo especially with UH's new stadium being built. opinions?

 

Maybe this will improve recruiting for the Runnin' Horns.

UT men's teams (e.g. football, basketball, track, swimming and diving, tennis, baseball, wrestling, rugby, lacrosse, golf) would have an audience. The network could start promoting its athletes, on and off the field / court -- which would help with recruitment.

 

why didn't a&m follow UT to the pac-10? how is this better than the pac10 or sec?? why even weight the sec option then?

 

For A&M, it's like they get to hold onto their security blanket.

For UT, they get to remain the lone super political power.

 

As a cougar alumnus, there is nothing that I could want more for U of H.

That being said, I believe it has to be a unanimous vote for any new school to be admitted into the conference and I don't see UT/A&M/TTU/BAYLOR voting us in.

They have more to lose than gain, in terms of sharing the pool of Houston recruiting. Well, there's that whole deal AND the fact that we have the crappiest fans in the state. We do not EVER have a full stadium, unless we are playing a big time program. I will continue to show up, but just because I love to see my school compete and win.....regardless of the conference affiliation.

Its just too bad we don't have 20,000 others who echo the same sentiments or we WOULD actually have a shot at a legitimate conference.

 

very disappointing...

i was hoping atm would be more cooperative and go to the pac10 or just bolt for the sec...

all this pussying footing screwed over both ut and atm. now the big 12 is weaker and they have a tv contract that will be outdated as soon as the pac10 negotiates its new contract...

dont know how successful a bevo network will be. youll have football and basketball. maybe baseball... what else is going to fill the programming line up???

also lose out on academics...

it also looks like the big 12 is still unstable and we'll have the same problem 10 yrs from now...

man i hope ut gets another shot in the future to join the big 10 or pac 10...

 

All they have to do is schedule some competition outside of the conference. OU will. UT probably wont.

 

A lot of the most accurate speculation is on the first 2 pages of this thread.

 

I would think UH has a stronger case to be invited to the Big 12. The only thing TCU has going for it over UH IMO is that its better in football at this current moment in time. However, no way any of the Texas based Big 12 schools want to include SMU, TCU, or UH. It can only hurt them.

 

None of the other schools in the B12 want those schools either. It doesn't bring any new TV market (ie, money), but it forces the conference to split the money with more members. Thus, everyone loses by bringing in any of those schools. No Texas team brings in anything that the other 4 don't already bring to the table.

 

I wonder how much caution will go into the Pac-10 contract negotiation with USC on probation? Even if USC goes down the crapper the next 2 years, over time they should climb back. And the probation can be a built in excuse in losing or winning....

This all started when the ACC made their big money move months ago DOUBLING their TV contract WITHOUT expanding. That put all the other conferences on the move. They all stand to get a hefty raise AS-IS. The issue was how MUCH MORE they can squeeze out for the long term.

I don't think A&M woulda benefited that much in football going to the SEC. All it woulda done is help out all the other schools in the SEC by giving them a recruiting pipeline into Texas. A&M woulda gotten a bigger payday, but everyone else gets a bigger payday AND gets better. Only way they'da gotten on-field benefit is by being a VISIBLE TEXAS based "SEC team". Would that have been enough to sway kids from choosing UT or OU?

 

This is the real question. For all the Ags that did not want to separate from Texas and Tech (good rivalries), the Pac 10 was the best of both worlds...keep our old rivalries and create new ones in Arizona.

This was a dumb result.

 

i was concerned about what atm was doing to its academic rep. but i stopped caring what they did when they started saying they wanted to get out of ut's shadow. you have to respect that. at some point, a man has to set out on his own. if they would have been more aggressive then they would have gone their own way to the sec and ut could have gone its own way to the pac 10. both scholls would be happy.

i dont think this would have necessarily hurt the state of texas. shoot the state stands to benefit economically by having its two flagship schools in two power conferences. you get visitors from the south east and west coast. hotel, restaurants, bars, etc...

very anti-climactic... im sure we'll be visiting this problems again a few yrs down the road.

what really sucks is that the sec and big 10 can still poach the big 12, big east, acc to form the first super conferences... and texas will be playing catch up again...

future big 10

mich
mich st
ohio st
indiana
purdue
nw
illinois
iowa
penn st
neb
wisconsin
minn
ND (?)
pitt (?)
Maryland (?)
Syracuse (?)
Missouri (?)
Rutgers (?)


future sec
sc
florida
georgia
tennessee
kentucky
alabama
auburn
mississippi
mississippi st
lsu
ark
vandy
ga tech (?)
miami (?)
FL St (?)
Clemson (?)
NC St (?)
Virginia (?)
Va Tech (?)
WV (?)
Louisville (?)