[College Football] Big Ten, Texas have initial talks

I know. I think tamu played the sec card to threaten the pac 10 deal. Now that texas is committed, everything will come back in line.

 

By UT grads, yes.

By the rest of us, not so much.

 

Make A&M look like the bad guy. I like this.

 

That's a good argument for Waco joining the MWC or CUSA then, at least then people will have to stay in hotels rather than drive the 90 miles between Austin and Waco, 100 miles btw Waco and Dallas, etc

 

Without equal revenue sharing, A&M has to leave but probably won't be allowed to do so ... Texas is too scared that the SEC will be in it's backyard and threw a tantrum

the fox deal is reportedly for 18 years ... Does ANYONE think this will still be a good tv deal in 10 years with 8 to go?

Texas just saw the light of how good big 12 lite could be? Whatever

 

maybe...we've all been following this pretty closely. i don't think i've ever followed a sports story so closely in my life. i've gotten emails over the last week from guys who were involved in a lot of this mess..and others who had the ears of state reps and coaches.

the average joe...at this point...i think would blame A&M....he'd see TX committing to Big XII followed closely by A&M takes off for SEC...and blame A&M. not sure that matters to A&M or not. but i seriously doubt they'll leave now that UT is committing to Big 12.

 

except that people don't travel nearly as much for non-BCS conference games.

anyway..moot point now.

 

Perfect analogy.

IMO this is posturing by UT to get A&M back in the fold.

However, I don't think that a 10 team Big 12 would survive another 10 years.

There's too much money being left on the table elsewhere.

Everybody, particularly UT/A&M, would be itching to jump ship.

It would be a very volatile situation with far too much power in one place (UT).

 

Well, anything to justify keeping the Red Roof Inn owners of greater Waco happy then - I'm sold on your reasoning here.

 

Chip Brown is batting .000 these past few days.

 

fixed

 

Sam....I'm not supporting any of the economic models. But you're fooling yourself if you think Central Tex state reps wouldn't go to bat for BU sticking in a major conference. You'd have to ignore history of both BU and Tech to believe that.

 

So UT saying they're committed to the Big 12 was posturing by A&M to get UT back in the fold... wha?

A&M talking to the SEC was not a trick to get UT in line, that was them covering their own asses, because the Pac 10 was a horrible idea for them that was not in their best interest.

 

Also I guess the latest rumor was that A&M was pushing Mizzou hard as the 14th SEC team if they go that way

 

Haha ... Headline on espn2 is that move to pac10 is imminent ... Guess the horns last ditch effort to get the ags back in line didn't work

 

Selling out a 100,000 seats and having a prime time, major network time slot is too much money for a conference to pass up. As much as it can prevent one team from reaching the BCS, a Championship game can vault another team in because of the RPI gained from beating the high ranked team.

 

not even close... you keep dismissing the notion that for Texas this entire thing is about more than just football when that clearly isn't the case. moving out west opens all sorts of doors not only for the football team but for the university as whole.

to think that staying in a weaker conference with less teams then before and a smaller television footprint is somehow better for Texas is absurd. if the BigXII-2 remains intact i think A&M played their cards fantastically here... let's be real, they have no real interest in the SEC. if they were a stepsister in the BigXII and would become the red-headed stepchild in the big boy conference. Aggie simply refused to let big brother dictate any more, and although IMO a move out west would help A&M a great deal they weren't going to sit by and watch Texas call the shots and transform itself into an even bigger juggernaut - both athletically and academically.

 

I would be highly disappointed tamu if they leave. I mean the money is going to be good regardless.

 

if you believe UT and A&M weren't going to part...ever...because of political pressures....then A&M flirting with the SEC blocked the Pac 10 expansion that was rumored.

 

The big Pac10 games would be played in the afternoon when everyone is watching. It's only the lessor games that are late night. None of the ABC, ESPN, etc would be late night. And anything involving Texas or the CST teams would be day time as well. The only games played at night are the ones that don't have a major TV deal. So that wouldn't be an issue.

I think the math is simple - these TV contracts are based on population.

Texas + Oklahoma + Kansas + Missouri + Iowa = 41MM people

Texas + California + Oklahoma + Arizona + Colorado + Utah + Oregon + Washington = 90MM people

Sure, you have to split between 60% more members, but you have 125% more people. And that ignores the sheer power of that size of a network and how many people across the rest of the country will subscribe to a Pac10 network that wouldn't subscribe to a BevoNetwork. The numbers are overwhelming. If Beebe's right about the $17MM / year per school, the Pac10 would dwarf that number. And that sounds about right, given the B10's setup (I believe they have about 70MM people).

I don't think they are stupid. I think they miscalculated and now are panicking. They thought they could drag A&M whereever they wanted, and now that they can't, they are scared of whatever negatives come with that.