[College Football] Big Ten, Texas have initial talks

In those posts I said A&M wouldn't get invited to the Pac 10 without UT.....not that A&M wouldn't get invited to the SEC without UT.

I absolutely stand by that.

I think A&M could get invited alone to the SEC...and no way they would get invited alone to the Pac 10.

 

I wonder how UT would feel about A&M if A&M leaves for the SEC . I don't believe a rivalry has to be within a conference as long as they play each other on Thanksgiving .

 

Yes, I think A&M would be better off separating from UT. Since the formation of the Big 12, a gap has been growing between the programs - recruiting, fundraising, wins, etc. If they want to cut into UT's advantage, they should provide an alternative to recruits and fans.

 

I like the idea of the Aggies in the SEC and Texas in the Pac. As a general sports fan it gives me a rooting interest in two of the Super conferences, like I root for the Cowboys in the NFC and the Texans in the AFC. It just expands my involvement. But if The Aggies play an SEC West schedule and Texas on Thanksgiving I don't see how they would ever post a record over .500.

I think it would add a conference vs. conference element to the annual match-up too. The whole SEC fan base would pile on against Texas like they do, making the game even more compelling TV.

 

SEC is w/o doubt the best Football Conference , it will be pretty rough for the Aggies for few years. Once they get better players, they should be able to compete in the rugged SEC West/ East schedules . I agree as well it will be better for Texas Schools with more exposure with Texas/A&M meeting on Thanksgiving for a PAC / SEC showdown.

 

I live out west and would love to see the Ags more often, but the SEC is a much better destination with or without Texas. If Texas refuses to play us OOC out of spite then **** em ... They are the ones destroying the rivalry(which ironically they claim doesn't exist) not us. A&M is the only school not just deferring to Texas and doing whatever they want so Texas is throwing a temper tantrum and trying to force A&M into the PAC 16 and it is probably going to work unfortunately.

 

Big 10 is the best Football Conference.

 

I think you have been watching way too much espn classic or big ten network

 

I guess the real question is, who goes with A&M to the SEC?

Clemson, GA Tech, VA Tech?

Lord help me if A&M or UT have enough clout to bring Baylor along to the SEC or Pac 10, respectively.

Why the two largest public schools of this state would be looking out for a small, private school over the interest of the 3rd largest public school is beyond me.

 

because of the economic impact to TX of having 2 schools in the SEC or 3 in the Pac 10.

but i don't think it's gonna happen.

 

If that is your argument, then wouldn't the 3rd largest public university in the state's largest city have a much larger economic impact than a small private school in Waco?

 

How is Texas destroying the rivalry? a&m losing to baylor is destroying the rivalry. There is a reason ou is looking to texas. Like it or onto Texas brings money to other schools. It's r****ded that so many aggies cares more about not seeming dependent on Texas than doing what's best for their school.

 

Texas is threatening to end the rivalry, not A&M.

What's best for A&M is probably the SEC, and not being dependent on or subservient to UT.

 

If they go to the SEC, they are going to lose and lose often. Texas wants stability and value in the new conference. How Texas is a bad guy in wanting a&m to be a part of that is baffling. They aren't telling the PAC 10 to take UH bc UH is worthless. They think the aggress are a good program and want to include them bc it makes the conference better. It's within their right to end the matchup especially if they have less non con games in the new 16 team conference. If ATM is bitter and sick of Texas then we don't need to play everyyear.

 

in what way is going to the pac16 better than going to the sec for A&M? I'd actually prefer if Texas and A&M went to the SEC but Texas wants no part of that

your post is full of Texas arrogance basically saying that we need you for financial reason ... I think we can stand on our own two feet thank you

Texas is really just afraid that recruiting is going to be hurt if A&M goes to the SEC as many more top notch recruits will choose SEC teams with more exposure in Texas ... Admit it!!

 

haha ... Lmfao ... Now Texas shouldn't play A&M every year if we don't do exactly as daddy Texas says because we are just bitter? ... Look if we can somehow get the Longhorn legislature to allow us to go to the SEC (doubtful) there will be an open invitation to play Texas in every sport and if Texas chooses not to take part then it is the Horns that are obviously bitter

 

Scenario 1)

Pac 16 goes down as planned (A&M included)

Big 10 goes to 16 teams, taking any combination of ND and other Big East schools (possibly Mizzou)

Big East poaches remnants of the Big 12 (KU, KSU, and Mizzou if still avail)

Baylor and Florida International join CUSA (I, personally, would LOVE to see this, great rivalry potential)

Iowa State and Western Kentucky or Middle Tenn State join the MAC

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Scenario 2)

Pac 16 goes down as planned (A&M excluded, Utah included)

A&M goes to SEC along with 1 ACC team

ACC picks up 1 Big East team

Big 10 (12) goes to 16 by picking up any combination of Notre Dame + Big East + ACC teams (and possibly Mizzou)

ACC finds some way to balance their conference if need be (with Big East teams most likely; depends on how badly hit by Big 10 raid)

Big East picks up remnants of Big 12 to balance their conference (KU, KSU, and Mizzou if available)

MWC invites Houston or Baylor to replace Utah; whoever doesn't get the invite ends up in CUSA

Iowa State joins the MAC (lol, I can't figure out a good ending for Iowa State)

 

I've the one that said and was quoted last thread for Saying that it was dumb to think that the SEC only wanted A&M bc they wanted to get Texas with them. I was the one that defended the value of the program in itself compared to the rest of college football and said they would be a target themselves. I hate ppl on this board who attempt to undermine arguments by saying posters are this or that. Address what's said.


Texas is not afraid of a being hurt recruiting wise. Recruits know that at Texas they will get on national tv and now have exposure bc of higher profile conference games. It's annoying how everything Texas doesn't want to do is because of "fear".


Seriously go to the SEC. I really hope you guys leave. See where bitterness and an Inferiority complex gets you.

 

I'm not saying "why aren't they including UH!? WE'RE TEH AWESOMES!" I'm saying "why are they favoring Baylor's inclusion over UH?". As it pertains to the State's economy, UH has a larger impact, and a better conference would go a long way toward establishing Texas' 3rd (and 4th, with Tech) Tier 1 university. And as far as having a ceiling for potential, I think UH's is higher athletically. Baylor spent 15 years in the Big 12 and never made anything of themselves (in football, at least... which we all know is king, unfortunately). With UH, you at least have the benefit of the doubt.