[College Football] Big Ten, Texas have initial talks

If you're a Rice guy, you'll know more about it than I do.....

but I understand Rice seriously considered eliminating athletics on two different occasions over the past 5 or so years. I do remember discussion over the issue on sports radio here locally. I don't have a bibilography to cite you too, though.

 

Yes, this is the only reason UT would be trying to help Baylor. UT has to at least make it look like they did everything they could to get Baylor an invite.

 

He is an ESPN employee, perhaps that is the reason? Also he has broken a lot of stories concerning UT.

And honestly, UT is the biggest story in this...they are the big dog at the party.

DD

 

Baylor fans... can you PLEASE leave this thread?! The big boys are trying to discuss important things here. Go sit at the kiddie table, we are trying to work here.

Okay guys, so now that Baylor is gone, we get TAMU to pretend they are going to the SEC, let Baylor go, then TAMU goes Pac-16 and we watch and laugh as Baylor players die on the field.

 

if you believe for one second the Pac 10 would invite A&M were it not for the University of Texas you are as delusional as this last post you made makes you sound.

 

I want Texas State in there, they are bigger than Baylor or Tech anyway.

Come on.....TEXAS State is the 4th largest University in Texas, they deserve to get in on this...



DD

 

That's not really the kind of academics I'm talking about, nobody outside of the admissions office really give a sh-t about USNWR rankings - it's tier 1 research institutions they care about.

http://mup.asu.edu/research2009.pdf

Oregon is one, Arizona is one, California is one, - Baylor College of Medicine is one...is Baylor itself? nope. And I think it's actually even more damning for Baylor that the medical college, which had to erect a Berlin wall between it and the rest of the university to keep being taken seriously, is one.

Having a sh-thole like TT probably doesn't please them either, but having two drags like TT AND Baylor is even worse.

 

Seriously. The Pac10 doesn't care really about A&M. The team that all the conferences want is UT. UT is the hot babe at the bar, A&M is the fat chick that isn't much to look at, but if your buddy doesn't take her home you aren't scoring with the 10. Hey, at least the fat chick will give a BJ.

 

they associate with a school that has a tree for a mascot. i dunno.

 

There's a big difference in running a local radio show on an ESPN affiliate and being an actual journalist for ESPN. World of difference.

Yes, he breaks a lot of stories over UT. Why? Because he's effectively a PR guy! When UT has something sunny they want covered, you better believe Chip is first on the list to know. But when there's something complex, you better believe there's a conflict of interest there. Even so, if they want to use him for UT stuff, I could partially accept that... but to basically quote him alone for everything all over the country, I have a major problem with.

 

Cat,

I think you hold journalists in too high regard.

I don't think the average person thinks there is any difference between a guy on a radio show and the guy pounding the pavement writing for the local fish wrap.

I understand where you are coming from, but honestly, a credible guy is a credible guy whether he uses a pen, or a mic....

Times have changed.......but I understand inside the world of journalism there is a sense of difference....

DD

 

It was a joke. But of all the schools going to the Pac-16 I'd put TAMU 2nd on the list, right after Texas. Does OU even have admission standards? Yes their football is better. But what else do they bring to the table? Baylor is private, nobody cares.

 

Yeah, who cares about football dollars! The Pac 10 wants all these schools to better their academic reputation, not increase the money they get because of the athletic associations!

 

If he's objective, sure. But objectivity isn't a requirement to run a local sports radio show. Sure, some are - but not all. And if there's a conflict of interest, ESPN should take that into account. Would an average person? I don't know, but ESPN should have a higher threshold for their coverage than what the average person would think.

 

I keep seeing this from Baylor fans and I just don't get it. How would Texas not exerting effort on behalf of Baylor be "screwing" them? Do you think Baylor screwed Texas out of a national championship game in 2008 because of Art Briles' final coaching poll? That certainly cost the state of Texas some money but I never heard talk of state legislators threatening Baylor.

If Baylor doesn't get in on its own merits (mainly attendance wise I would imagine), please explain to me the screw job. Unless, of course, you have heard that Texas is trying to keep Baylor out.

 

You guys have a really short memory. Nebraska and ATM are both valuable programs. Yes, they have not been good in the last few years but they have a lot of alumni and big followings. It's not crazy to think that ATM would be wanted by conferences outside of being used as a tool to get Texas.

I feel like people on the board think that the only school worth going after in all of college football is Texas. Having said that, Baylor still sucks.

 

I don't think there's any way this happens. For starters, the BCS is a conglomerate of the major conferences. The B10, SEC, ACC, etc aren't going to have any interest in this. Second, if it did happen, an expanded B10 and expanded SEC would want the same deal - now you have too many auto-bids and go back to the collusion-to-kill-the-small-schools problem.

 

The football team has been mediocre at best and you guys are one and done every season in March . No one cares about A&M either ..you started it!!

All kidding aside, OU is number 2 in this and it's not even close.

 

The SEC is interested. The Pac10, however, wouldn't be. A&M doesn't really fit the Pac10 in any way by itself.

 

Jeez loueez, nobody is arguing that it's not about money, but since Baylor pretty much contributes little to nothing in that department, being a massive net drain in football (and ultimately, that's what this is about mind you, otherwise Gonzaga etc would have joined the Pac 10 if this was about basketball) and has pretty much nothing in common with any of the other pac 10 schools, not geography, not anything, it's not really that difficult to figure out why nobody gives a sh-t about them, given that they bring pretty much NOTHING else to the table.

I mean it's nice to flaunt your 76 USNWR ranking but when that ranks in the second tier of Pac 16 schools it doens't really add much.