[College Football] Big Ten, Texas have initial talks

Damn! That must be the new high tech version of Risk! that I've heard about. Where are the little blocks? I miss the little blocks!

 

Where is Kansas going after this realignment mess is done? I know this is all about football, but Kansas has a tremendous basketball program that generates a lot of money (6th highest in college basketball) http://money.cnn.com/2010/03/18/news/companies/basketball_profits/index.htm

 

From their message board insiders, from going to school there, from Coach Kelly wanting us to schedule Texas as soon as he got the job, etc..

Who wouldn't want to play them? That's a hell of a lot of $$.

 

If true, that would add more credibility to the Northwestern insider. If you look back, his initial post on B10 expansion about a month ago talked very in-depth about Texas and Notre Dame seeking an agreement to play each other each year.

It's complete wishful thinking, but I'm praying that one's true. As a Mizzou fan, of course the Big Ten is ideal for us, but the thing I love about the Big 12 is its connects down here and the huge presence Mizzou has in Texas recruiting. This would be the best of both worlds.

 

Pac 16 is better than Big 16 for Texas. Why? Because Texas is guaranteed at least 6 conference games in "warm" weather (A&M, OU, OSU, Arizona, Arizona St., and Tech).

 

I can't name any players at all that go to Baylor, so I wouldn't know if they were offered scholarships by UT or not. But I'm sure Baylor got some recruits that UT would have liked to have had. Sometimes players pick a school because of a family connection to that school. I'm sure there have been some blue chip players from Waco that wanted to play for the home town team. I suspect some players would pick Baylor because they are Baptist. However, now that Baylor may not be in a major conference, these prospects may not even consider Baylor anymore, which is good for UT.

The point I was making was that UT doesn't mind seeing Baylor left out of the PAC-16, and that recruiting Texas athletes has become much easier for UT since the breakup of the SWC. I never said anything about the 1970's being repeated. But, I do think the breaking up of the Big 12 does benefit UT just as the breaking up of the SWC helped them in the 90's.

 

Yeah, exactly. It would also give Notre Dame a bigger window into the Texas recruiting. I like this option a lot more than ND scrambling after the super-Pac10 forms.

I haven't heard anything message board wise to backup the NU's claim; everything I've heard/read is the same as has been published: ND is holding firm on it's independence. But I gotta think Texas joining at the same time would be a game-changer.

 

This would be much simpler if the Big10 commish, Pac10 commish, all the B12 school representatives, and ND's representative all got into one room and just did it that way. ESPN would probably play millions to televise it too...

 

I'm sure this has been answered before, but why is Texas attached at the hip to A&M?

 

So the Big XII is dead and the ACC and SEC may raid the Big East to fill voids. What happens to the 2 auto bids that those conferences had? Do the four super conference just decide everything?

 

Which screwed UH. After spending many years working hard to keep Houston out of the SWC, because they were afraid to play them, Texas (and A&M) finally relented. Texas promptly got their butt handed to them. Here's a little history from Wikipedia:

Under Hall of Fame coach Bill Yeoman, the Cougars compiled a record of 160-108-8. His 160 victories rank 51st on the NCAA all time list, and make him the winningest coach in Cougar history. He used the Veer offense in 1964 which quickly helped lead the Cougars to national prominence. Yeoman's Cougars finished the season ranked in the Top 10 four times and 10 times in the Top 20.

In 1964, Yeoman broke the color barrier for major Texas football programs when the University of Houston signed San Antonio’s Warren McVea to a scholarship. On September 11, 1965 the Cougars played their first nationally televised game on NBC against Tulsa.[18]

For three straight years Houston led the nation in total offense, averaging 437 yards a game in 1966, 427 in 1967, and 562 in 1968. The 1968 total was an NCAA record at the time. Houston also led the nation in scoring, 42.5 points a game that year.

He guided the Cougars to four Southwest Conference Championships – 1976, 1978, 1979 & 1984 - and a 6-4-1 record in bowl games including Cotton Bowl Classic victories over the Maryland Terrapins in 1977 and the Nebraska Cornhuskers in 1980. In 1976, Houston’s first year as a member of the SWC, Yeoman was named Texas Coach of the Year and runner-up for National Coach of the Year. Yeoman was elected to the College Football Hall of Fame in 2001 and the Texas Sports Hall of Fame in 2003.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Houston_Cougars_football

Houston, even when it didn't have winning seasons, would frequently still beat Texas. The Longhorns couldn't wait to get out of the same conference. I can't see Texas making that "mistake" again.

 

A&M just seems like a perfect fit for the SEC. It could actually give them an advantage in recruiting.

They could just play UT out of conference every season.

 

Explain? (Not trying to be rude, genuinely curious.)

 

For UT, imagine having to play USC and OU in the same year, they could all win once and knock each other out of the national championship race.

Not sure it is all that great of a thing, really.

DD

 

If it's not their responsibility, why would they try to figure out a way to bring them along?

I'm only saying this because you're making it seem like it's Texas' fault that Baylor didn't get an offer. This is especially untrue considering that Baylor was not one of the original six teams that the Pac-10 was going to offer and the fact that two Pac-10 schools openly opposed Baylor's inclusion in the conference.

 

Texas legislators and backers mainly. I would love to see Texas in the Pac-10 and A&M in the SEC (and the collective ****storm in Texas that follows).

 

So, you're trading sunshine in California for snow in Michigan, Ohio, and Pennsylvania?

(Not complaining, I can't wait to get Texas to Happy Valley.)

 

Not gonna be happening in this near future. Texas has a team again this year with the potential to go back to the National chip game. OU's going to be in the gutter again like last season.

 

Aggie fans seem to be excited about the prospects of a move to the SEC. I think part of it is getting out from under UT's shadow. Another part is that, culturally, the school fits more with the more conservative southern schools of the SEC than the "liberal/hippie schools" of the west coast, which fits UT better.

 

Idk. Something about the uniforms in the stands and that the school is generally considered to be right-wing.

Also, the SEC has a lot of tradition and A&M is all about tradition. Just my opinion that they would fit in nicely in that conference.