[College Football] Big Ten, Texas have initial talks

Texas is probably like the LA of the college football market, they'll watch it if it's on.

 

I would love to be in the mind of the Kansas AD right now. I bet he is freaking out.

 

Not just him but everyone in the state of Kansas. Both their schools being left behind in the dust....

 

Kan you imagine if Kansas, Kansas State and Baylor are all left without a conference? It would be funny if those three end up joining CUSA. Then you can add Memphis to the list of teams freaking out!

 

I wouldn't put KSU and Baylor up there with Kansas...

 

I get that Kansas is a better program than either of those two teams, but from all the possible scenarios, those are the three big 12 teams that could get left out that are actually relevant.

 

If UT and ATM leave along with nebraska, there is no big 12. I would be surprised if OU stayed if that were to happen.

The only way the big 12 stays together is if it's just a couple north teams that leave. Who knows if nebraska leaving will tip the scales in favor of conference collapse.

 

Agreed. Really don't even need to worry about A&M. If Nebraska leaves for the 10 and Texas agrees to head to the PAC, the Big 12 capsizes and all the other schools start trying to get into the lifeboat with Texas and head out West.

 

The situation is unfortunate for Kansas, but it's importance is slightly overblown. Memphis is all the proof you need that it's very possible to build a build a top-notch college hoops program without a top-of-the-line conference. Also, if the Big 10 and Pac 10 expand, you can bet the SEC will eventually do so as well - and in the process, there will be vacancies in either the Big East or ACC, both of which will remain elite basketball leagues. Kansas basketball will find a good home.

 

Funny...I mentioned the Baylor/West Coast oil/water mix a page or so back in this thread. How about aTm fans in Berkeley? Should be fun.

 

Chip Brown just said on his radio show: "The Big XII is done." Citing "sources."

 

For what it's worth, the people I know in the AD at Missouri say the Big Ten is a done deal - but that the big wigs have been told to stay quiet because the announcement will probably come as part of a package (Nebraska, ND, Rutgers?). Hope they're right. Supposedly, end of June at the latest...

 

Its all about tv sets in college. Thats why i think houston,tcu, and even kansas has more going for them than people think. Kansas basically has kansas city, houston is obvious, and tcu with the dfw metroplex. You can sell that much more than u can air force and byu any day of the weak. Even csu with the ft collins/denver market has tv's. The revenue produced from advertising always bring in cash to a conference.

 

That would be awesome. Love the idea of superconferences. The Big 10 adding ND, Nebraska, Misery and Rutgers would be sweet.

 

Houston isn't so obvious. What market is it that UH has a firm grip on? The market that barely attends their games? The market where people joke about going there and consider UH a much worse school than it actually is? Cougar High?

I don't think UH has much to offer.

 

That makes sense really except nj(rutgers). Wouldn't cincy make more than rutgers? ND has always made sense in the big 10. Now they can go to the motor city bowl every year :grin:

 

They have the houston market in which the conference can advertise big time. People care about houston football when they were playing big time football. If they get to play their games in reliant until the new stadium is built, those tv's make money for the entire league. I'm not an alum of houston either

 

http://www.denverpost.com/opinion/ci_15254053

Editorial: Conference shakeup: CU should keep its local ties

If the Pac-10 sports conference expands, dissolving the Big 12, Colorado could score best by joining the Mountain West.

By The Denver Post

Posted: 06/09/2010 01:00:00 AM MDT

We never thought we'd say this to the University of Colorado, but let Baylor win.

Let little Baylor, with its Texas- sized attitude and nosy legislators, elbow CU out of the Pac-10 Conference in this mad scramble to realign the nation's big school sports conferences.

CU doesn't belong in the Pac-10, which, as of today, is populated with West Coast teams and two from Arizona. CU may have a decent alumni base on the left coast, but its natural sports rivalries are here in the Mountain time zone and not in Corvallis, Ore., or Pullman, Wash.

The unrest in college sports began in earnest last week when reports surfaced that the Pac-10 is considering expanding with up to six Big 12 schools: Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State and Colorado.

If the Big 12 implodes, CU should stake its ground here in the Mountain West.

Meanwhile, Texas lawmakers this week began pondering ways to ensure that Baylor sticks with its natural Texas rivalries, which makes sense. And Texas government has a history of getting involved in such matters. In 1994, when the Big Eight officially absorbed the Southwest Conference to form the Big 12, then-Gov. Ann Richards, a Baylor grad, is believed to have put pressure on the Longhorns to insist on Baylor's inclusion, according to a Denver Post story.

Clearly, the University of Texas Longhorns are still leading the cattle drive. Their budget is huge, as is their fan base, and Baylor wants to stay connected to that gravy train.

So get along, little dogies.

If anything, we like the idea put forward earlier this week by Denver Post columnist Mark Kiszla, who suggested CU join its rival Colorado State University in the Mountain West Conference.

MWC presidents were prepared this week to offer an invitation to Boise State University, college football's feel-good story the past few years, but then tabled the idea to see if any other schools, including CU, might be interested. Before Buffs fans squawk about the MWC being a lower-tier conference, consider this: If Boise and CU were added, the MWC would have finished last year with four teams in the top 20 in football, and none of them would have been CU.

Joining the MWC also would allow CU to re-establish longtime rivalries with regional neighbors Wyoming and Utah, along with Air Force. Ideally, CU's addition would help the conference earn a BCS berth as well — a boon for Air Force and CSU.

In these days of shrinking budgets, it makes good economic sense for travel — especially for those teams that generate less revenue, such as soccer and tennis — if CU remains rooted in the Rocky Mountain West.

 

Rutgers has been mentioned before as a Big Ten candidate and makes sense from a $$$ perspective (the only one that matters) b/c they would bring in the NJ market. Cincinatti has no upside....they just lost their coach and it's Ohio.