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College Basketball 2007-2008

Discussion in 'NBA Draft' started by DoitDickau, Oct 16, 2007.

  1. wrath_of_khan

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    Speaking of Kevin Love, check out this great article:

    http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/colum...z_andy&id=3073615&lpos=spotlight&lid=tab1pos1

    Love reaches out to the Wizard for advice, history

    By Andy Katz
    ESPN.com

    WESTWOOD, Calif. -- Ask John Wooden, UCLA's living treasure, how he's doing, and the legendary 97-year-old coach will respond with a still-quick wit and say, "Well, I'm here!"

    He is. And, for however long he can continue to offer guidance or a living history of the UCLA program, Bruins freshman Kevin Love is going to listen.

    Love also is going to ask as many questions as he can to absorb what it means to be at UCLA, how he can hang a 12th national championship banner in Pauley Pavilion and maybe, even if he's in college for only one season, become as effective as some of the great centers who have passed through the school.

    No player on this UCLA roster and few, if any, incoming Bruins freshmen over the years have reached out to Wooden as much as Love, the most heralded center to arrive in Westwood since Lew Alcindor and Bill Walton, the two Hall of Fame post men Wooden coached. Junior Darren Collison said he has never called Wooden. Fourth-year junior Josh Shipp admitted how rare it was for any of the Bruins to call Wooden. Neither player knew of any other Bruin who did call the legendary coach.

    Even Wooden admits how rare it is for UCLA players to reach out to him and to call him.

    "I'd say more did that the few years after I retired than today," Wooden said last week. "Although there have been some, it's fairly unusual today."

    Love isn't hesitant to ask anything. He stopped Kevin Garnett during summer pickup ball at Pauley Pavilion and asked the perennial NBA All-Star to show him his footwork. So his talking to Wooden shouldn't come as a complete shock.

    "I just turned 19 [on Sept. 7] and I know my history," Love said. "I think it's the best thing in the world. He's not only the best coach of any coach of all time, but he's also one of the best human beings you'll ever meet. He's always going to give you the best advice, always positive, never going to be negative. He's as optimistic as possible."

    Wooden said current coach Ben Howland asked the legendary coach to meet with Love when the Oregon prep star came to UCLA for his recruiting visit in June 2006. Love's father, Stan, starred for Oregon during 1968-71 and played against Wooden's Bruins. So there was certainly a familiarity. But more than anything, Wooden had seen tape of Love and instantly knew the 6-foot-10 forward is a significant talent.

    "I was very impressed with him," Wooden said. "Coach Howland asked me to meet with him and his family on a couple of occasions, and prior to that I looked at a lot of film coach Howland gave me on him. He's a tremendous-looking player and prospect, and I am impressed with him as a young man, which is so important. I think two or three times I was with him, and each time I came away impressed with him as a person."

    Love said he fell in love with UCLA as soon as he sat down with Wooden.

    "That was one of the main reasons I came here," said Love, who played at Lake Oswego High in Oregon. "I know coach Howland knows how to win, but ... I got to sit down with coach Wooden for an hour and ... I call him every now and then and get to visit with him. The history here is a big deal to me."

    How many 18- or 19-year-olds search out the elderly for advice? But Love didn't just stop with his initial recruiting talk with Wooden. He continued to call him, about once a month initially, and it has picked up ever since Love arrived in L.A. over the summer.

    Love wants to hear every story. He wants to know about the work ethic of Walton and Alcindor. He has asked Wooden about his famed Pyramid of Success, too.

    "I just want to know what it takes to hang one of those banners up," Love said last week as he pointed to one of the 11 national championship banners that hang inside Pauley Pavilion.

    Remember, this is a college freshman talking. That's why Wooden was so struck by Love's insatiable appetite to know more about UCLA and what it takes to become an elite player.

    In a UCLA practice on Tuesday, it was clear that Love doesn't need a refresher course on the Wooden principles. The freshman led the Bruins in rebounding during the practice, just as he does every day because he is very good at sealing his defender and going for the ball with two hands and his elbows out.

    But assistant coach Scott Garson, understanding Love's respect for UCLA history, told the freshman that Walton and Alcindor used to get 12 rebounds in a practice. Love had just eight boards that day. Love responded by saying he was going for a dozen the next day.

    Wooden said the strength of Walton and Alcindor was that they "looked for the pass first" and that they were very good on the fast break. Love, in his few workouts and practices at UCLA, has already shown Wooden that he could perhaps follow in those big men's considerable footsteps.

    "He looks like one of the best I've seen getting the ball out on the fast break, compared with Walton and except Alcindor," Wooden said. "Hopefully, we'll see Howland using that."

    You should.

    Four of five starters return from a Final Four team. The Bruins return one of the top point guards in the country (Collison), will have a healthy Shipp (hip surgery) in Afflalo's spot, can slide a versatile Luc Richard Mbah a Moute (who was used at power forward last season) to small forward and will rotate Lorenzo Mata and Alfred Aboya at power forward next to Love at center.

    But for the first three days of practice, Love wasn't getting the ball in the post. His new teammates at UCLA hadn't figured out that if they fed him in the post, the offense would open up. So the Bruins' staff started force-feeding post entry passes. It didn't long for teammates to understand Love's effectiveness in the low post.

    "He knows how to play the game and that's the key," Shipp said. "His skill level makes it easier for everybody else."

    It hasn't all been a smooth transition. Like every freshman, Love has had to adjust to the speed of the college game and the strength of the big men (especially teammate Aboya).

    "The first day I was shocked by the speed and physicality," Love said. "I've been playing a lot, but it's still different going against bigger people every day."

    Love is also still learning where to be defensively, realizing he can't get away with what he could in high school. Howland said learning the defensive positions and how to use his strength to avoid frustrating situations will be a must for Love's development.

    "He gets pissed," Howland said of Love's frustration level if he gets beat or makes a mistake. "He's going to make mistakes, great players do."

    And that's where Wooden fits into Love's life.

    "If you're down after practice, you can always call him to pick you back up," Love said. "He's always positive. He's a great leader, born to be a leader. As old as he is, he's still coach Wooden, the Wizard of Westwood."

    Love said he was asked incessantly at school's media day about how long he'll be a Bruin, whether he has a one-year lease or whether he'll be in the NBA draft next June. He answers it the same way: He's focused on the present, and that means working in a Wooden-like manner toward a national title.

    "I'm hoping to I can follow in the steps of Mr. Walton and Mr. Abdul-Jabbar and if I do half of what they did, I'll be all right," Love said. "I'm just happy to be mentioned in the same breath of them. I'm just happy trying and making my mark."

    He already is by seeking out Wooden's guidance on a regular basis.
     
  2. The_Yoyo

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    I CANT WAIT! i got my tickets to see Kevin play a week from Friday. the owner of the company I work for is a huge UCLA booster and is heavily tied in with their bball program. I've been able to meet Coach Wooden through him in a private setting and get my pyramid of success autographed by coach.

    But yeah so the owner called me into his office and he was on the phone with coach Howland and let me listen into to all what coach Howland had to say about Kevin and needless to say coach is quite giddy about having him on the team. Also Coach said that Aboya was doing a lot better in practices this year and has improved defensively even more and has worked on his offensive game. Luc Richard Mbah a Moute has improved his shooting considerably (which was his major weakness) and that the tendinitis in his knees last year is all gone and he is in the best shape of his young career.

    shipp been hearing through my other ucla connects been tearing it up at the Men's Gym over the summer against NBA competition.

    its going to be real special in westwood this year I cant wait.

    i dont have season tickets but i'll be at a good portion of their games this year.
     
  3. Ziggy

    Ziggy QUEEN ANON

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    Coaches poll (week 1)

    1. North Carolina (10) 0-0 739
    2. UCLA (12) 0-0 734
    3. Memphis (8) 0-0 731
    4. Kansas (1) 0-0 669
    5. Georgetown 0-0 625
    6. Louisville 0-0 620
    7. Tennessee 0-0 598
    8. Michigan State 0-0 503
    9. Indiana 0-0 479
    10. Washington State 0-0 464
    11. Duke 0-0 390
    12. Marquette 0-0 381
    13. Oregon 0-0 360
    14. Gonzaga 0-0 252
    14. Texas A&M 0-0 252
    16. Texas 0-0 216
    17. Arizona 0-0 205
    18. USC 0-0 189
    19. Arkansas 0-0 173
    20. Pittsburgh 0-0 160
    21. Stanford 0-0 158
    22. Kentucky 0-0 155
    23. Southern Illinois 0-0 137
    24. North Carolina State 0-0 119
    25. Villanova 0-0 111
     
  4. DoitDickau

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    Has anyone ever been to the Maui Tournament? My alma's in it this year and i'm thinking of going. Non-conference Tournaments are always my favorite part of the season.
     
  5. Hayesfan

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    I didn't actually get to go either of the last two times UK went, but everyone that I know from UK that has gone down there has loved it. They had a lot of fun and it was a completely unique experience as far as the gym and tournament goes. You have to think of it this way.. compared to Rupp.. that gym is tiny!! So everyone had great seats.
     
  6. DoitDickau

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    Yea it looks fun. College Basketball all day long. and if you get bored with that, you're in Maui. What could go wrong?
     
  7. weslinder

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    Ziggy QUEEN ANON

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    As of tonights game Davis started. Jordan came off the bench. I am sure things will change. Eventually.
     
  9. gucci888

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    Gary Johnson has been cleared to play tonight when the Horns take on Xavier. Not sure how much he'll play but good to hear he'll be back on the court after the scare earlier in the season.

    But what do y'all think about Texas this year? DJ is the preseason Big12 player of the year which is nice. But w/ only 1 senior on the team and possibly 1 Jr. in the starting lineup, we're going to be an extremely young team. But at least guys like DJ, Mason, James, etc...have already received so much PT from last year.

    Projected lineup:
    DJ Augustin
    AJ Abrams
    Gary Johnson
    Damion James
    Connor Atchley/Dexter Pittman
     
  10. The_Yoyo

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    just got back from the ucla game they won 111-61 and kevin love yeah that guy is real good double double 15 PTA dunno the rb but more than 10
     
  11. Ziggy

    Ziggy QUEEN ANON

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    Umm... I'm still stickin with my boy.
    Check sig if you don't get it...
     
  12. weslinder

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    Tubby Smith 4 President
     
  15. Hayesfan

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    LOL

    I always liked Tubby and didn't mind if he stayed or left, but change for the sake of change sometimes doesn't get the job done.

    Those boys were so unprepared for the start of this season it wasn't even funny. Losing by 16 to a mid-major on your home court... not supposed to happen at UK.

    At this point... all Billy Clyde can do is improve.

    And doesn't he ever yell or get excited? He looked like a grandmother shaking her head while watching her grandkids toss sand at one another. It was weird. I need my coach to yell at least a little bit. Stomp up and down the sidelines. Give the "Glare".
     
  16. Ziggy

    Ziggy QUEEN ANON

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    He'll stomp around, yell at the refs, yell at his guys, hold back tears in wins, hold back tears in losses... I think he was in shock in that loss. Who wouldn't be.
     
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    I couldn't agree more. My Lamar Cardinals got a new head coach last year, a hotshot recruiter named Steve Roccaforte, who's done well so far, but rarely shows any emotion. The previous two coaches were Billy Tubbs and Mike Deane who usually led the conference in technical fouls.
     
  18. Manny Ramirez

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    Glad to see that Kansas State is getting some love in this thread. I would love to see them beat Kansas at least one time this season. I have read that Beasley has said he is saying all 4 years at KSU but I don't see him following through on that.
     
  19. Hayesfan

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    I guess...to be honest I was sort of in shock as well, but not until after the game. I would have been doing something during the game. He just looked so calm the whole time. Almost like he was at a loss of what was going on and had no idea what to do to change it.

    As for Kansas State, I would love for them to beat Kansas... anytime the Jayhawks loose it makes me smile a little inside.

    I actually feel sorry for them, as far as depending on Huggs then him leaving in the first opportunity. But then I have always hated Bob. He's not a quality person.
     
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    Ziggy QUEEN ANON

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    Beasley. I don't care who the competition is. 25 boards in college is nuts.
     

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