[COD BOMB] Rockets have a backup plan for BIG 6 if signing Lebron fails in the summer

aka 34 year old whose been in the league for 15 years needs a babysitter

 

Please just stop posting this nonsense. You have seen how we would acquire him hundreds of times now and you would think you would actually try to get it right once. The Rockets aren't doing a SnT. The fact that you don't understand how any of this works makes all of your scenarios pointless. I think everyone here knows and would agree to 100% LBJ will be on the Lakers or Rockets next season. Odds and percentages and betting don't mean anything. No one will know anything for a week. Either way you can go on being a Lakers fan, it's a free country. There is nothing novel about him going to the Lakers, it has been discussed for years.

 

@ApacheWarrior

You need to quit clogging up threads with your salary cap machinations. Go to cbafaq.com and read the entire thing and digest it before posting any more salary cap stuff. Because you don't know enough about it and you're arguing with posters over basic parts of the CBA that you should know before attempting to post salary cap scenarios.

 

Lakers
1) LeBrons wife wants to be in L.A.

2) LeBron wants to team up with Paul George (who wants to be with Lakers....he is from Palmdale). 30 mins from Staples.

3) Kawhi wants to join them; and his group is telling teams if you trade for me, it will be a 1 yr rental because he will go
to Lakers in summer of 2019.

4) LeBron knows he can recruit vets to L.A. better than recruit them to Houston (Fill gaps left by removal of Tucker/EGo).

5) Private school “Sierra Canyon” had a good season and would be ideal for his kids (filled with kids from former athletes).
If Gary Payton lied, it would turn his word into mud. You don’t give a specific detail like that. You say something like, “I have information that LeBron has his children enrolled in a school in L.A. Broad statement. Hard to verify by paying someone off. Law doesn’t allow information of minors to be divulged. Give me your kids names, let me call schools asking
about your kids........bet I won’t get far as far as obtaining info.

6) LeBron doesn’t really care too much for the city of Houston. ESPN representative who covers the Cavs repeated such.
Of course she is lying because it doesn’t fit the “LeBron has to go the Rockets” narrative here.

7) Lakers can create cap space to form a super team that can be competitive this year. Top 3 in West. He took a bunch
of flunkies with Cavs to the NBA finals. That group should have be out in the first round this year.

8) Those who know players are claiming LeBron has put a ton of money renovating his home in L.A. during the season.
Not to be just a summer vacation home type of money.

9) Lakers can put together a SnT more enticing than the Rockets.

10). Rockets are telling LeBron that they (Rockets) are so close to winning a championship......but we (Rockets) have
to trade probably Tucker/Eric Gordon. People don’t think Eric Gordon and Tucker weren’t important to the Rockets getting as far as they did. Rockets threat at shooting and spreading the floor were Ariza/EGo/Tucker/GG/Luc MaM.
Taking away EGo and Tucker takes away 2/5th of their spacers. Plus there are questions as to the whether Ariza
whose skills have been diminishing over the years will get the money he wants. Luc MaM can get more money elsewhere
so the uncertainty of his availability probably worries LeBron. GG can get more money elsewhere....GG couldn’t get
off his 3-pt shot vs the Warriors. They covered him close and took their poison by leaving Ariza and Tucker open more or less. So in retrospect you are telling LeBron come to Houston because we have great perimeter shooting. LeBron will
ask why did the team miss 23 straight 3-pt attempts if they are so great in a game 7 at home (and you are taking away 2 of them to bring me in.....maybe more).

11) Rockets have to remove Ryan Anderson contract. You can’t guarantee me the Rockets can do this. Read articles on that.....they go hand n hand with the Rockets cap crisis.

12) CP3 is LeBron friend......yeah so is Maverick Carter. Friend slash business partner. Do you know that LeBron has been investing in Maverick Carter for years? He is not going to sign a 4- yr or 5- yr deal with Houston and let Carter hang in the wind. LeBron is going to hold Carters hand while in L.A.. LeBron is setting him up to be the next Spike Lee.
At the end of 4 or 5 yrs in L.A. LeBron will be thinking about retirement. That’s where Maverick Carter returns the favor and helps carry LeBron through the transition of playing ball to Movie/documentary/commercial industry.
I recently posted a tweet from Maverick Carter twitter. Dated June 11th. Promoting a documentary on HBO viewing in October. He tweets @KingJames as the excecutive producer. Houston can’t compete with that.

13) Nike/Sprite and other companies are pushing him to join the big market appeal of L.A. over Houston. Guaranteed.

14) Magic Johnson is the Lakers GM. Former player that LeBron can bounce ideas off......and get results or smart feedback. Sorry Morey, LeBron will have more say in a team build with Magic.


Rockets
1) No State tax

2) play with Harden/CP3

3) CP3 is a friend.........wont make money for LeBron like Maverick Carter will for a longer period of time (after the game is over......life in basketball)

4) best team record wise (reg season)........lot of “if’s” as to who will be remaining. LeBron ain’t dumb. Durant wouldn’t
even give us a sit down with so much uncertainty.

5) F Tillman was estimated to be worth 2.8 billion before the purchase of the Rockets. Then he bought the Rockets
for close to 2.3 billion. Lower level seats were always empty. Did the team operate in the “red”? Or did the seats sell but
people didn’t show up? Will Beyoncé show up and save the day? LeBron will want guarantees that Tillman won’t go bankrupt paying a Harden/CP3/LeBron/Capela salaries 3 yrs from now. Miami owner balked after a few yrs....and that’s
was with the big 3 taking discounts. Cavs owner reportedly said he wished he forced LeBron to take a long term deal instead of this 2-yr deal with player option. It’s hard to sell the team with the uncertainty of LeBron long term.
https://www.slamonline.com/uncategorized/dan-gilbert-wants-sell-cleveland-cavaliers/

So report me if you think I’m posting fake news. Or Shut the blank up.

 

...and he still wont comply. One of the most selfish players to ever play in the NBA.

Melo is a drama queen and simply bad news for any team he joins.

George Karl was right about Melo.

 

Split the difference and create a short term win-win scenario.

Lebron's family moves to LA, Lebron opts out and signs with Houston for one season at a discount. That would allow him to play with one of his closest friends as both promised while keeping Rockets championship contending core together another year so Lebron can go after an easy ring, ring #4.

One year is not too great a sacrifice for Lebron to have his cake and eat it too.

 

2) reports are 50/50 if PG stays in OKC or goes. Adding to uncertainty.

3) SA is not really talking to LA about trade and probable won’t until after the season starts. Adding to uncertainty.

8) CP3 put money in his house in the woodlands before he sold it. So this argument is nil.

Not saying he is coming here, but your overselling Lakers.

 

You are right. LeBron can take the Lakers to top-3 in the West. I'm sure that is his ultimate goal.

You are posting a dull combination of obvious, frequently-cited points and random speculation, presented with the over-confident assertiveness of basketballholic, but without any knowledge of basketball or the salary cap. Not quite as catchy as "fake news," but more accurate.

 

This is subjective - really depends upon what you consider "Competitive" …. Top 3 in the west doesn't really mean much in terms of championships.
It likely means they get swept by the Dubs again or get punched out by the Rockets.

No team they build in LA is going to be Significantly Better than the Cav's were last year. Lebron , PG13 and they have one more big salary to offer then its the kids on the Lakers roster …. and a buncha veteran minimum guys.

Sure , they get a top 4 seed …. but the bar is much much higher.


Also people keep talking about ring chasers joining him …. they didn't before , most are taking every dollar they can , LA aint gonna change that.

 

Wish free agency would officially start already, all this speculation from "sources" is endless and mind numbing.

Houston is a possibility but it's more reasonable to entertain the idea that LeBron is more focused on his post NBA career at this point slightly over his desire to add more rings to his legacy. He knows that whatever he chooses to do now will always be acceptable because he's already brought a championship to Cleveland and Durant's signing will always foreshadow what he does from this point on.

That being said, let's just all agree that moving Ryan Anderson to another team is going to cost us another valued member of our Rockets team (or draft picks) and hoping that we're able to kill two birds with one stone with moving him is going to be exceptionally challenging.

 

You’re just stating everything the national media is reporting, and we know all that isn’t true.

 

Point #12 is silly. You think Lebron needs LA for that? Lebron can do that anywhere and he probably isn’t going to be focused on that during a basketball season anyway.

 

#7 is by far the stupidest point.

Taking the Cavs to the Finals means nothing when you’re a 3 to 4 seed and first/second round exit.

Paul George isn’t a superstar or a needle move either btw and Lebron knows this


So many LOL moments in that post. Spike Lee hahahahahaha

Insert youtried.jpg

 

That's a good post and mostly legit info.

The business side though........will be there be matter where he plays. Maverick Carter, Hollywood, etc. He was playing in Cleveland when he produced the film. Just playing in LA isn't going to change that. All those same opportunities are available here while he maintains residences in Cali.

By the way.......Hollywood and California are in deep doodoo. The state is upside down in debt with no solutions on the horizon. The governor is trying to tax breathable air. And their big inner cities are a disaster. Hollywood....I'm not going to go there. Except to say they're losing, bleeding red ink right now. And will continue to do so unless and until they change their corrupt ways.

And once again....schools? Gimmeabreak. Other famous people's kids? LeBron decision ain't about none of that.

This is a basketball and basketball legacy decision. Period.

LeBron is choosing how he wants his legacy to be written. He wants his team. And he wants all the guys to come to him. Obviously. Because that would place him in a special category over Durant (and his own previous Miami version) if he could pull off 4 in a row.

But.......does he have any realistic chance if doing that in LA? The straight answer is no. Yes, he can drag a group of vagabonds to the Finals in the East.....and get blasted. But he can't do that in the West. At a minimum he needs two other great players (Kyrie/Love, Wade/Bosh) and several great role players (JR/Delly/TT/Shump before KD and with Draymond suspended, RayRay/Battier/Chalmers/Haslem pre-Warriors) to have any chance of beating the Warriors to even make it to the Finals where he's not going tusk have to go through a healthy and Nino doubt improved Celtic machine.


So, if he goes to the Lakers he's wasting at least one season (probably more) trying til get his team built out. Oh they'll be good no doubt. But they won't get to the Finals EVEN IF HE PULLS OFF THE MUSCLE AND GETS GEORGE AND KAWHI to come.


Once again, the Lakers will be operating UNDER THE CAP! That's a 2011 Miami Heat scenario all over again. Except now there's the Durant Warriors. The Lakers do not have enough expiring contracts to even generate sign-and-trades you stay over the cap even if all the player cooperated. And even if they did....There no salaries left on the roster to trade for other key role players.

So LeBron loses a MINIMUM of one season if he goes to the Lakers. Meanwhile the Warriors go to another crown OR the Rockets get somebody else (WE WILL get somebody else if LeBron doesn't come) and we take the title away from the Warriors.

Then in 2019, the Lakers are over the cap, few trade chips, will need to use the full MLE to get guys, pay Leonard, and try to squeeze everything in under the hard cap apron. God forbid anything happens and the cap goes down or doesn't go up substantially. Meanwhile LeBron's basketball clock is ticking away. Yes, even he is going to age.

So LeBron has to decide his legacy.

1. Stay in Cleveland, hope trades work out and he gets enough guys to run the table. But if not he was loyal and undid his Miami reputation somewhat. Still definitely in the discussion for greatest player ever. But not definitive unless he gets lucky and puts together at least a couple more championships. (Highly unlikely.)

2. Go to the Lakers, have his team, get his guys, but essentially stuck in a worse 2011 Miami Heat situation, because the Warriors and the Rockets today are far auperior to those Spurs and Mavs teams that beat him.

3. Come to Houston and have a legit opportunity to rattle off 3 or more in a row immediately.

It's LeBron decision. But it's about basketball and his basketball legacy. I THINK I know how LeBron thinks. That's why I'm at 95% Houston. Because I think LeBron is very intelligent and rational and I think he wants to win more than have his own team. He could prove me wrong however and let his ego get the best of him thinking he can overcome us and the Warriors with less help around him than Harden and Durant have. That why I'm still giving the Lakers a chance here. And not closing the door altogether in them. Because LeBron's basketball Achilles heal is his ego. He has no other basketball weaknesses.

 

LeBron may see Kareem's scoring record instead of 3-4 more rings as his path to the mythical GOAT title. Especially if he wins one more title in LA 2-3 years from now. What better place than LA to break Kareem's record. He probably recognizes that catching Jordan in titles is a pipe dream at this point, especially after KD broke the league. Jordan's 6 rings are not so magical when Bill Russell has 11 and Robert Horry has 7. If he plays in Houston, his scoring will go down from sharing the ball with Harden and CP3, perhaps putting the record out of reach. He needs another 4 years at 25 points per game, roughly, to get there. I have to admit that it doesn't look well for Houston at this point. We should probably be daydreaming about Codbomb's big 6 plan instead.

 

I feel this is WAY more in play. I believe LeBron wants to stay in Cleveland. But will convince himself LA would be "good enough" to compete.....his way.

Houston can compete "right now." But not "his way." I think that matters to him.

 

Agreed, and I think @basketballholic touched on it somewhere else too... LeBron likely has concerns about "control" here, from the front office to the locker room.

 

Actually, I don't agree. I think from a "control" factor LeBron would have a lot. This organization caters to their stars. It is aligned. Morey/Tad they work really close with Harden & CP. Would be the same for LeBron. Conversely it is much more rigid in Miami.

So, in Houston, control isn't an issue. But this team is "Harden's" team. He is the face. I feel LeBron wants to be the face of his team. That's the EGO thing.

 

Lebron is probably gonna end up a Laker. On that we agree.

But your emotional investment on it is ****in’ weird. Here’s your “Probably Gonna Be Right” cookie. Hope it’s as satisfying as you need it to be.

 

Regarding your Lakers point #12, Maverick Carter did an interview with Rich Eisen back in November of last year, where Rich asked him wouldn't it make sense for LeBron to go LA if he is trying to get into the movie business. Maverick said, "it doesn't matter where even if he played in LA and wanted to play in a movie he can only shoot for 3 months, it doesn't matter even if he plays in LA and he wanted to play in a movie he can't shoot it because he plays from September until June".Then Rich said he can take meetings during the off days, Maverick said, "these days he can do it anywhere in the world". He also said LeBron is "happy to be the ep, the company doesn't need him to be here, and if he wants to act in movies it doesn't matter because he only has three months to do it".

Link to the interview-
they start talking about the above around the 15:30 mark