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[COD BOMB] Rockets have a backup plan for BIG 6 if signing Lebron fails in the summer

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by hakeem94, Mar 19, 2018.

  1. homewight

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    Yes he will. The NBA has always and will always overpay. He will get a max offer from someone.
     
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  2. YOLO

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    you're going to be disappointed.
     
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  3. Deuce

    Deuce Context & Nuance

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    No one is going to tie up Max Money resources in a PNR center when they can get a cost controlled C in the draft.

    Are any of these teams really looking to give Capela a max deal?
    Phoenix, Dallas, Sacramento, Lakers, Atlanta. They will be looking at Cs in the draft if anything.

    Many of those teams are more likely to pursue Randle, a player that can create his own shot.
     
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  4. luckyman76

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    Exactly, Capela is a 100% dependent player like DAJ. No CP3 or Harden, no skrilla. Miami is having trouble and been floating Whiteside. Capela can't shoot FT or operate 5 ft away from the basket. You value his D and his PnR dominance as a finisher. Dwert was too stupid to recognize that and fortunately we got a better consolation prize. Our only mistake with him is I wish we would have traded him at the deadline and just taken our lumps. We weren't winning **** with that team. We are still paying for it with the Ryno sighting and got damn lucky that we stole EGo. Without his injury history he would have been snatched up by someone else for more money.
     
  5. Vivi

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    Pretty sure Morey tried to trade Dwight, there were in fact rumors at the time and those rumors were also about Charlotte having interest in him so...as today i think it's safe to say they were true. But i guess the Hornets were not willing to trade anything decent for him, they actually got a pick from Atlanta for taking back Dwight last summer...or better, they got the 31st and Dwight for the 42nd...
     
  6. Realjad

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    I really don't know. The NBA has surprised me many times. I mean, Chandler Parsons coming off serious surgery and known deficiencies in his game got a max contract.

    Capela is 23 years old and has already established himself as one of the better centers in the NBA, still improving, and showing no signs of slowing down. All this at an age where normally centers are just entering the draft with scouts saying 'this guy has so much potential, could be a future great when he adapts to the NBA pace'. Capela is already thriving.

    What I'm saying is, I have seen much crazier things occur in the NBA then some stupid team giving Capela a max contract. In perspective, some team giving him the maxed isn't far-fetched at all.
     
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  7. luckyman76

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    The original asking price was two 1sts. I know it's hard to fathom that now but if he wouldn't have overvalued Dwert we could have got something and a low lottery pick for missing the playoffs. We still had the pick swap deal for Lawson that we had to uphold. Morey kept him because they wanted to make the playoffs. He got surprised by Portions like this and didn't trade him with the Celtics but there was no surprise here. He knew we needed a new coach and weren't keeping Dwert. Personally, I think it was just so hard to grasp how close they had been the prior year and here he knew they blew their chance at KD and were back to square one. Dwert really screwed us because he wouldn't commit to the role Capela does better and couldn't stay on the court. 10 cent brain and injuries derailed an athletic specimen that could have surpassed Shaq. Shaq always dogs him and now you can see why. That Blazers playoff game where he blew up at the start always makes me so mad. That was what we thought we were getting only to see it for 10 minutes and never again. To be fair, he played well in the playoffs but he had to be THE GUY.
     
  8. Vivi

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    I agree on everything about Dwight, with that said, i don't really know what happened at that deadline, but there were 100% rumors about Morey looking to trade Dwight, and especially as today there's no reason to not believe he tried since those rumors were about the Hornets having interest and they ended up getting him one year later in a trade. I remember i was hoping to see a trade cause that team was simply done, and i expected the Rockets to eventually get a protected 1st for Dwight but yeah...i guess Dwight had just no value as an expiring.
     
  9. Deuce

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    Parsons getting a max contract off of an injury was surprising. But THE LANDSCAPE that allowed that to happen is the "spiker" off season.

    That's what I am saying, you can't look to the past. It is a NEW MARKET in terms of NBA dollars. "supply and demand."

     
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  10. Realjad

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    Joakim Noah should be listed in your 'surprising' catagory as well.

    While I can respect your use of caps to drive your retort home, and while I agree it's a justifiable 'excuse' this time, because there will always be one. I disagree with everything else.

    What I'am saying, you can look to the past.

    Do you know how many 'new markets' the NBA has had? You could have bought the clippers for 12 million in the 80's, they had a salary cap of like 8 million. Rockets sold for 85 million in the 90's. The NBA markets have always progressed in leaps and bounds forwards. This 'new market' is just following that same path.

    The most recent salary cap hike, by percentage, isn't even the biggest one the NBA has had in it's history. We've been down these roads before. Over the course of every single 'new market' the NBA has had, there has always been terrible and awful max contracts given out. It's not going to stop, to think it will is delusional. Terrible, unjustifiable and surprising max contracts will occur in this 'new market' and I'm saying that with absolute confidence by going off the past.

    Do I think Capela will be given a max deal? No. Do I think he will? No. Will I be completely surprised if he does by some team? Not at all, disappointed, but not blindsided. I think there is definitely a chance for it to occur. This ain't my first rodeo, I've followed the NBA.
     
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  12. topfive

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    If we somehow signed Kawhi and thumped the Spurs in the playoffs, that would be like amputating Pop's leg and beating him over the head with it.
     
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    if you get a chance to improve and add players from the Olympic team you do it
     
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    What did Jalen said? Video not working here :confused:
     
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    Kawhi will not be a spurm next season
     
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  16. Vivi

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    Thanks.
     
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    How much money did the Clippers hand DJ to do exactly what Capella does here ?! ..... Max money.
     
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    I think the other two he's referring to are DeMarcus Cousins and DeAndre Jordan. DJ just has to opt out of his contract and he can be back in his city.

    I honestly think that signing DJ does not render Capela useless or something. We still sign him I think. So the Big 6 with two off the bench would be:

    Harden
    Paul
    Capela
    Cousins

    Bench:
    Gordon
    Jordan
     
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  19. Corrosion

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    I agree with that .... we have 48 minutes of world class point guard play between Harden and CP3 , why not 48 minutes of world class center play with Capella and DJ.
    I just don't see it happening. If he opts out he takes a $20m hit to the bank account , if he forces a trade (Ryno for DJ) you are pretty much done maneuvering right there as unless you are moving Tucker ,Nene or EG you have no other (contract) assets , everyone else of consequence is a free agent - CP3 , Ariza , Black , Green , Luc & Capella.




    I DONT think Cousins is in the mix here. Not that I wouldn't want him ..... Just don't see it happening because of money. He's an Unrestricted free agent , no arm to twist to get here via trade. To give him a max deal you'd have to gut the roster. Unlike Lebron or PG13 he cant twist the GM's arm and force a trade to the destination of his choice like CP3 did last year. I don't see him taking a discount to come here either - He's looking to cash in.

    I really think we have to look at players who have some leverage over their current situations - player options who can force a team to send them to the destination of their choosing if we are to believe any of this Big 6 rumor and to get to 6 , someone's giving a serious discount.
     
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  20. hakeem94

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    Kawhi would be awesome here...he could take a discount in exchange for harden teaching him how to stay healthy
     

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