Coach McHale Rockets-TWolves Post Game - He loves his young Rockets

What?? I said Lowry fans, which of course is small, hated McHale for the same reason, did not mention what majority opinion on GARM was! You need to first read carefully, second stop trying this strawman argument.

 

What? The concept of being butt hurt on the interwebz and having to prove your point because of your ego is unfamiliar to you?

If you don't get what I was saying about your ego, you won't get this, but the tension between fans and the coach or a player, is created by the fans in literally every case sans a handful.

 

Lowry fans almost ubiquitously said they understand he won't get his starting role back. What you said is that 'there were people who were upset' about Lowry losing his minutes. That implies there was more than just one unreasonable child stomping his foot.

If you talk in such large terms, it would be reasonable for someone to assume that you mean a larger group of people. That's how sentence construction works. There was absolutely not an even relatively large group of people who were screaming about Kyle's minutes. He lost 20 pounds from illness and was out for a month. Why would people have been pissed at McHale for taking his minutes away?

 

LOL First you say tension cant exist because the coach didn't engage with the fans. My point is, IT DOES AND CAN EXIST despite that. The same way it existed between Isaiah and the New York fans even though he never engaged with them, nothing to do with internet or you butthurt in this point. Move on, no point watching you backtrack like you owe me money. Btw why arent you on your alt? Banned on your main for being stupid?

 

Stopped reading after that line, Lowry fans ubiquitously said they understand?? WTF Are you friends with all the Lowry fans?

 

Read between the lines, man. Almost every stinking interview McHale complains about how young the team is or about the trades Morey makes or says things (with a sarcastic smirk) like "You'd have to ask Daryl about that." Even in a relatively positive interview like this he comes across as dissatisfied and (his own words) frustrated.

I wish I had faith that this was the case. It's all in his tone, facial expressions, body language--he's not happy, he's frustrated and dissatisfied, he didn't like the decision to tear down and rebuild (he's said that much outright)... he's not just saying this crap for the benefit of reporters & fans, he's not a happy coach.

We're already hearing rumors the FO is unhappy with him and he certainly doesn't seem happy to be here. It may be hard to fire him if the team makes noise in the playoffs, but if you see us lay an egg in the first round (as in, not even a competitive series) then I think there's a real chance he's gone.

The only reason he played Morris at all is because Morey amnestied Scola. As for PPat, he was literally one of the oldest players on the roster. You can't credit him for playing the young guys when he doesn't have anybody else but young guys to play. Also, have you noticed how James Anderson's minutes have all but vanished and 31-year old, 37% shooter Francisco Garcia has taken all of them + more?

It's no mystery with McHale what his attitude is about young players.

 

*red solo cup*

 

Why on Earth would I (or anyone) need 2 accounts on a website to discuss basketball? I'm not here to "flame" people or do things that would get me banned.

I said the fans start and create all of the tension, not that it doesn't exist - you just epitomized what a straw man argument is in case you're still having trouble understanding that term. In the case of Jeremy Lin, they create the tension out of very small things and non-issues (i.e. "did you see the way his tone changed when the reporter asked about Lin? Omg, he hates him.")

 

Read my reply to Codman's post again and try to understand where I was coming from.

Hope your habit of objecting for objection's sake won't keep you from losing more of your allies. Taking some reading comprehension classes may help.

 

I wasn't saying it because of one particular post. Just saying in general that you are a person who attacks McHale and is a huge supporter of Lin's. Am I wrong on either count?

 

Dude give it up, first I wrote it very clearly, the tension was created with the lin fans because of the coach's own words and actions about Lin. Here is another strawman argument example, OMG LOFs think McHale hates Lin!! Never said that. Yes I did say McHale hate Lin's game but never Lin the person. It does happen and it DID happen where coach prefers one player's style over the other, just like McHale preferred Dragic over Lowry. So why is it such a conspiracy theory that McHale might not be fond of Lin's game. It's never personal, they are not high school kids. See what you guys are doing?? Make stuff up to discredit Lin fans

 

I'm not sure I followed any of this.

 

Doesn't surprise me. Let me summarize:
That you made stuff up to discredit Lin fans by implying that we think McHale has some deep rooted conspiracy against Lin because he hates Lin on a personal level, when all we are saying is based on McHale's words and actions, that he doesn't think highly of Lin's game and prefers more defensive minded PGs like Beverly.

 

Mchale is not the problem. Lazy defense is.

 

With a large part of the season behind us, is it necessary to classify people as Lin fans only. At what point do you think stereotyping should stop. Its obvious that these "Lin Fans" are fans of other players on the team.

 

Yes I am a huge supporter of Lin as part of the core of the team, just like any genuine Rockets fans should be to all their players.

You can't be more wrong for my opinions on McHale. I always give him the benefit of the doubt. And I have never started any thread or lead any discussions to hate on McHale.

The world is not just black and white. Learn how to differentiate the different levels of grey in between.

The problem that you seem to be arguing with so many people all the time here on the GARM, as I see it, is because you tend to over-generalize about things and put people into too few archetypes. Over-generalization would only make things more complicated and defocus the point, and soon you lose track of what you are really debating about.

 

There was never any Lowry-McHale PMS-fest on this board. Since I got on this board there have never been so many adolescent girls going off about a Jeremy Bieber-type player. Clutchfans is less enjoyable than I have ever seen it. Sorry: I'm not anti-female. I just think guys should not have PMS or get Bieber swoons. You LOF's suck and I hereby officially announce that I hate LOF's and wish you had never come here. Jeremy Lin is fine. But you LOF's make Lin being on the Rockets less enjoyable. I hate LOF's.

 

Well, the Lakers were behind the lowly Hornets 25 pts before they came back and won the game. They are a veteran team. How do you explain that?

 

Right, I made up "stuff" with an implication? I figured your 2nd explanation would be just as sloppy and poorly thought out as your first. So what you're saying is that there isn't a deep rooted conspiracy because of McHale's hatred for Lin, but rather there is a deep rooted conspiracy because of McHale's hatred for Lin's game. My points remain the exact same in both scenarios (reading in to looks and voice tone, etc.).

When I see things regarding the looks McHale gives to reporters and how that applies to his hatred of Jeremy's game, but they totally disregard the praise and good things he says thereafter, I know that these people think there is some kind of strange conspiracy regarding McHale and Lin.

 

You literally facilitated a lot of discussion in the McHale Interview thread about McHale being a poor leader, not willing to take responsibility for a loss, and the quotes you put up with "fair comments" or whatever else you said were almost all negative with bad things to say about McHale.

I don't know what you consider it to be when you post like 10 times in 2 pages if it's not leading a discussion to hate on McHale.