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coach a and his staff

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by denniscd, Jun 22, 2007.

  1. crash5179

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    Why is it a myth? Because you don't agree with it? SVG has had two years as a coach so I prefer to wait and see on him. Feel free to place him were you wish. BTW, if you think JVG's system wasn't a My Way or the Highway type of system then you are probably the only person on the planet that feels that way. Its good for regular season victories against average to week teams but little else. That fact was proven over the course of the last 4 years.
     
  2. denniscd

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    just asking you to list specific parts of his system that were my way or the highway...and its weak, not week.
     
  3. daddy cool

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    Excellent observation and order.
     
  4. DaDakota

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    I was just trying to kid around - thus my winky guy. No harm intended.

    DD
     
  5. daddy cool

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    I live in sacramento and have followed the kings since adelman's arrival in 98 .


    UP-tempo isn't the right way to describe what adelman wants to bring to the rockets. What he wants to do is get the offense moving quicker and reading the defense and taking advantage of early oppurtunities. Most of the up-tempo thing is ball movement and player movement. He wants everybody moving and the ball moving at the same time. You are not standing around watching two people go to work,everybody is in on this thing,he wants the defense to have to defend everyone and not just 2 peoeple. Back door plays early on in the offense, decoy's,pick n rolls,high post attacks,multiple screens to get shooters open,early fast breaks catching the defense slipping,Post yao, pick n roll yao and t-mac,get novak going like peja.


    Adleman is a offensive wizard, he isn't about run and gun, he is about precision,sort of like a bill walsh of basketball on the offensive end.Popovich bit some of his motion offense from adelman which made the spurs not so stagnant and predictable. Don nelson bit adelman's style when adleman had jason williams running and gunning,nelson took that format and used it with nash in Dallas. Lawrence frank is in awe of adelman and his system,Byron scott was adelman's assistant in sacramento,scott left sac and went to newjersey and used what adleman was doing to coach the nets to two NBA finals. Eddie jordan uses the same system which is a NBA version carrills princeton offense.



    He doesn't want yao running the fast break. He wants to make yao and T-mac not so easy to defend. He wants them to have more than one way to beat defenses. He will have yao better than tim ducan next season and tim mac more efficient at what he does and more importantly more people will be able to contribute.
     
  6. crash5179

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    That make me all tingly! Damn now I am ready for the season to start. I can't wait to see the Adelman version of the Rocktes.
     
  7. daddy cool

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    Another great thing about adelman is his ability to adapt and make changes on the fly. When peja was traded adelman had to structure a whole new style of play to intergrate ron artest into the flow with very little time. He made the changes and the kings played better the second half of that season and still made the playoffs with nearly taking it to the spurs. I also saw adelman and his assistants devise a plan to eliminate steve nash's screen roll mismatches, by sending a bigger guy from the paint to off set the size advantage dirk had on the guard which made all the other rotations defensively quicker which eliminated the advantage.
     
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    wow you can say that again..i think his post really made me feel 100 times better about this change in style than anyone else has ever said...even hearing it from rick adelman didnt make me feel this good! :)
     
  9. DaDakota

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    Now that is a post I can agree with. Well spoken dennis.

    Fair enough about V-Span.....and I think it would be unwise of me to cite examples about system and fit etc, but there are a lot of threads about this exact subject from earlier in the year.

    DD
     
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    What does JVG think about offensive rebounding?

    Has a JVG team ever not been in the top 3 in defense?
     
  11. denniscd

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    not completely sure about the offensive rebounding and i can never remember them below top 3 in fg % defense except in 34 win season without both yao and mcgrady
     
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    I'm thinking something like,

    1. Riley/Jackson
    3. Popovich
    4. Sloan
    5. Adelman

    I can't really see coaches like Karl, Nelson, Avery Johnson, Saunders, D'Antoni, etc., as being as good as those above. In fact, Adelman might be as good or better than Sloan, but I think I'll wait and see how he handles Yao and McGrady before reconsidering this.
     
  13. TheFreak

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    If he's not my way or the highway, how does every team he coaches end up that high in defense? You have to give up something to achieve that, unless you just happen to have the best defenders in the league at every stop.

    Doesn't he all but abandon offensive rebounding in favor of stopping fast breaks at all costs?
     
  14. denniscd

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    yeah transition defense is obviously important to his defense
     

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