CNNUSATODAYGALLUP SHOCK POLL: Kerry beats Bush 53-46 in head-to-head matchup...

I agree. I am a Christian too and it frustrates me as well. The most annoying part of the interview with Larry King was that he later said he could not guarrantee it but his same God showed him that Ronald Regan would be re-elected as well. God does not gamble - you are either sure of your vision or you are not. Only man wavers - God does not; he is certainly not man. So shut up Pat. Also can anyone believe that he tried to imply that being a democrat and being a Christian is fallacy? Yes he implied as much. Oh well we shall see come November.

 

I scoff at these polls!

National Survey of 600 Democrats conducted December 14-16, 2003
A mere 6 weeks ago

Dean 26%
Lieberman 13%
Clark 11%
Gephardt 11%
Sharpton 7%
Kerry 6%
Braun 4%
Edwards 3%
Kucinich 1%
Not Sure 18%
RasmussenReports.com

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December 17, 2003--The latest Rasmussen Reports poll shows that former Vermont Governor Howard Dean has a solid lead in the race for the Democratic Presidential nomination. Among Democrats nationally, 26% prefer Dean while 13% said Joe Lieberman is their top choice. Wesley Clark and Dick Gephardt were selected by 11% each and no other candidate reached double digits.
The national telephone survey of 600 Democrats was conducted by Rasmussen Reports December 14-16, 2003. Those are the first three nights following the capture of Saddam Hussein. The margin of sampling error is +/- 4 percentage points, with a 95% level of confidence.

Many observers believe that the Democratic Primary may come down to a choice between Howard Dean and one other candidate. A Rasmussen Reports survey conducted last week shows that Dean leads in head-to-head match-ups with all of his other contenders.

Dean's lead has apparently been bolstered by last week's endorsement from Al Gore. The former Vice-President is viewed favorably by 60% of Democrats and unfavorably by 23%.

Dean himself is viewed favorably by 42% of Democrats and unfavorably by 19%.

Among self-identified liberal Democrats, Dean attracts 35% of the vote. Clark, at 13%, is the only other candidate to register double digit support among liberal Democrats.

Among moderate Democrats, Dean attracts 22% of the vote compared to 17% for Lieberman, 14% for Clark, and 12% for Gephardt.

 

I don't think anyone expects or is declaring that Kerry is a definite winner; it's just surprising that Bush has slipped so fast. The Dems have what appears to be 2 or 3 legitimate contenders in Edwards, Kerry, and Clark. They are finally challenging Bush on several issues which has hurt Bush, but not as much as this administrations own glaring mistakes with the war, the economy, and uncontrolled spending. So of course it's too early to declare a winner, but this poll result is more promising than seeing Bush lead all opponents by 20 points with little chance of an upset.

 

Scoff? Maybe you should challenge the poll to a duel. Pistols at high noon!

With all due respect to Scott Rasmussen, comparing Rasmussen Reports to the Gallup Poll is like comparing NBC to Public Access TV - ok, maybe more like NBC to the Food Network. Gallup is still the most widely repsected and trusted pollster on the planet.

But, since you mention it, even Rasmussen shows Bush and Kerry essentially neck-and-neck (46-45) at the moment.

 

The point I was making is this... before it happened, who would have predicted that capturing Saddam (even better than killing him, you would think- politically) would have been greeted by the public, scarcely a month later, with a big "ho-hum". I'm really stunned. I thought Bush would be able to make hay with that for a few months at least. It's not that it wasn't a big deal to the public, it is and should be, it reflects more on their deep dislike of this President... more than any great love for Democratic candidates they are still learning about. That's why I think the White House is having sleepless nights.

And add a disastrous State of the Union that produced a negative reaction in the aftermath, almost unheard of, and you have a President in serious trouble, putting aside whoever is running against him. I don't think this should be dismissed as just early poll numbers. I think it reflects a deep and abiding distrust and dislike of this sitting President.

 

My money's on the poll.

 

As I'm sure you know, Howard Dean in December led in virtually every poll by virtually every pollster. Take your pick -- there are many to choose from! I find your post quite ironic! A certain individual on these boards with an affinity for thunderstorms was repeatedly trumpeting the Rasmussen poll that showed Kerry leading Bush. Jeff, perhaps your reponse is best tailored for him.

GALLUPED

 

Don't be so dramatic, Georgia. I'm sure that if the poll had said GWB was leading by 10 points, you would have praced around like peacok with your chest puffed out extolling the virtues of the fine people at Gallup.

We're a LONG way from the election, so most polls at this point aren't worth the fax paper on which they are printed, but it is something about the presidental election to talk about in February.

 

You can't possibly be serious.

 

If Georgia weren't a drama queen, she would be a mere state.

 

"I once went out with a girl named Georgia. Babble, babble, incoherent this and incoherent that. And I learned never to go out with girls who are named after states again!"

 

I love it. Trader_Georgia reminding everyone of his fondness of searching the available males over at Match.com.

Sorry I didn't respond to your pleading e-mail. I'm sure we do have a lot in common and that you'd love to get to know me better, but I've already met the future Mrs. Affinity for Thunderstorms (notice the Mrs., which is one reason I didn't respond...).

Keep your head up, you'll find your big fella one day.

 

However, a majority of those polled -- 54 percent -- said they do not believe Bush deliberately misled the country on whether Iraq had weapons of mass destruction, while 43 percent said they believe there was deception.

43% a landslide does not make but ...

I would bet that that would be 43% of the electorate who are guaranteed to not vote for GWB next time. As time goes by, I suspect that this number will continue to grow.

Methinks Rove is making an election threatening mistake by not getting the 9/11 comission and Iraq WMD Intel comission over by the beginning of the summer, so that by the November election both will be old news.

 

ROFLMAO!

 

I can't believe Democrats think Kerry can go head to head with Bush in the South...where the election will be won or lost. Southerners didn't like Gore...he couldn't even win Tennessee. When was the last time we had a president from the Northeast? JFK 40 years ago?

 

Kerry doesn't need to win the South. He can win New Hampshire, Missouri, and West Virgina, and that would do it. All of those states are very winnable for John Kerry at this point in time.

Hell, without Nader running Florida wouldn't be out of the picture.

 

this is my point...i agree with this. i don't think a boston democrat is going to carry even one state in the south. maybe i'm wrong...but i think a shutout is entirely possible. i don't think a shutout of the south is even remotely possible with edwards as a candidate.