[cnnsi-podcast]Robert Horry makes his argument for the Hall of Fame

It's the Hall of Fame ... not Hall of Best NBA Players. He had too many classic moments on the biggest stage for him to not get serious consideration.

Only player to win multiple championships on 3 different teams. 16 straight years of getting out of the first round. If nothing else, he should be honored for being the luckiest player ever.

 

A Hall of Fame has to come from the best or second best player on the team or a player who has had a major impact on the game on his team. To me Horry is the best role player on the today NBA, but a role player will not get into the Hall of Fame, likely he will not get in.

 

Rodman absolutely deserves to be in the Hall.

Horry doesn't deserve to be on the ballot.

 

Why Rodman deserve it and Horry not?

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Because Rodman was one of the best defensive players in the NBA and one of the greatest rebounders to ever play the game.

 

While I agree with your general sentiment, I take offense at you calling Horry lucky. He earned the majority of the rings he had. Its not like Horry was just sitting on the bench and just collecting rings, he was hitting clutch shots in most if not all of those championship runs. Maybe a few clutch shots here and there were luck, but 16 straight years of clutch performance? That's not luck, that's skill.

The Hall of fame is a joke, its not like only the best of the best are in the hall. Tex Winter isn't in the hall of fame, and it took a long time for Phil Jackson to get voted in, while you have some unknowns who did some stuff for the WNBA and other useless things getting voted in every year. If Allen Iverson (whose only real accomplishment was taking his team to the finals one time in a team specially made for him) is a lock for the hall of fame, there's no reason why Robert Horry (who made so many championships for several team possible) shouldn't get in as well.

 

If Horry wasn't on the Lakers team, or on the Spurs team they wouldn't have won their championship rings. Does that not count for a major impact? Besides, like I said in my earlier post look up past inductees in the hall of hame, not all of them are godly players you have guys voted in simply because they have political clout among the voting committee.

 

Hitting all those clutch shots is skill, not luck. I can sort of agree to that. Being in position to make those clutch shots on the biggest stage year after year? Luck. Or, if you prefer, "good fortune".

 

How so? First off, Horry was almost a decade younger than Rodman. Also, they didnt necessarily always match up against one another. Rodman also still averaged 13 rebounds per game during the series.

Secondly, I didnt realize that the Hall of Fame was determined on a head to head basis. Thanks for the new info there.

 

Horry just said that him and Rodman were both underrated.

You are the one that said that Horry outplayed Rodman in the 95 series, which is really irrelevant to any discussion regarding whether or not Rodman or Horry should be in the Hall of Fame.

 

Horry should not be a Hall of Famer, but it would be cool if they had a little Horry kiosk at the basketball HOF that showed all his great playoff moments.

 

I'd be extremely interested in Morey's take on Horry, and I agree with everyone else, he's not a hall of fame player.

Here's one to mule over, though. Is Horry a top 150 player of all time?

 

Definitely a Hall of Famer. Few players have been nearly so clutch in playoff games. I don't think he should be penalized for being a so-called specialist.

 

Is Horry the most clutch basketball player ever?

 

Horry is SEVERELY underrated Defensively.
Pops always said he was one of the Smartest Players he coached

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I'm looking at Horry's numbers and just chuckling at the fact he can be mentioned for the Hall of Fame when others have yet to get in. If Horry gets in, he's getting in for a handful of shots over his career. lol. He wasn't a scorer. His defense was solid, but not exceptional in his prime. His 3 point shooting was average to below average for a "specialist" (34%). I mean seriously, he scored over 9 ppg once since he left the Rockets in 95-96, and only in 2 more seasons since then did he average more than 7. He didn't even average 5 rebs for his career. At his height, he didn't even average a block a game. He shot 72% from the FT line for his career, so he wasn't very good there. Assists? A whopping 2 a game. Career 42% FG shooter which is average at best depending on your era.

This reminds me of when I worked for a large networking company as a contractor during the telecom/dot com boom. There was this one guy who seemed to just walk around doing not much of anything and really not knowing anything. I had to ask one of the employees there "what's the deal with this guy - why do you keep him around?" He responded, "people ask me that all the time and it's weird... he comes up with a great idea about once every 6 months". I kid you not... that was the exact response from his manager. At that point I knew I was in the midst of the utter cluster and lunacy known as the dot com/telecom boom. This guy is apparently kept around because he comes up with 1 good idea every 6 months. This thread makes me revisit that day... Robert Horry for the Hall of Fame because he's hit a handful of clutch shots. lol.

Here's something I used to like looking at that 82games did a few years ago. They may have something more recent - I haven't looked : http://www.82games.com/random12.htm

Lots of potential Hall of Famers on that list... Steve Francis, Joe Johnson, Zach Randolph, Jalen Rose, Ben Gordon...

The players Robert Horry played with and the teams he played on put him in a position to hit those clutch shots. But ... as you can see from that list... there are a lot of people who hit clutch shots over the course of a season who never see primetime simply because their surrounding cast sucks. Clutch shots happen all the time - hell, somebody's got to hit them.

And to the person that asked whether Robert Horry is the most clutch player ever... sure... give me a choice among Jordan, Bird, West, or Reggie Miller to take the final shot in a game to win it, and screw 'em all - I want Robert Horry to do it!! Or hey, better yet give me Jamal Crawford or Derek Fisher - according to that link above, they hit quite a few during that stretch they measured.