Awww, it's not really worth it BM. The only way for the Texans to change public perceptions will be for them to start winning some games - preferably against VY and the Titans.
it would be interesting. many of these self same "experts" also maintain it takes awhile to accurately evaluate the draft. the need to immediately produce a draft grade is purely for entertainment value.
So why does making mistakes in past drafts make this draft bad? You can't say we did bad this year because we made a bad pick in 2005. So we should have taken Staley at 10? We should have taken Marshal Yanda or Mario Henderson in the 3rd? Those guys were so much better than Frye that they were going to solve our problems? Didn't we take 2 OLineman in the 3rd last year? OL was not our most pressing need. It was a need, but not our biggest. It has just gotten the most attention since day one and even though it's improved, people still think that's the biggest problem. Problem, yes. Biggest problem, no.
a-****ing-men, brutha - preach it! PREACH IT! i posted this in our forum, will repost it here. lopez wrote the following - see if you can pinpoint the inherent flaw his "thinking": so he's basically arguing that we would have been better off picking a guy who, for the sake of making all the round pegs of his story fit neatly into their square holes, would have had NO additional impact whatsoever our won-loss record? seriously? how in h-e-double hockey sticks does **** like this get published? i swear to baby VY - the chronicle does not currently employ editors at any level.
no, we actually all pine for the halcyon days of two wins and a front office being led by a brain-damaged r****d. you have to walk before you run; unfortuantely for the texans, they're still learning to crawl. it's going to take some time. and fans complaining about a draft is such a waste of energy, as if any of us know 1/1,886,738th what the teams do; you're essentially b****ing that they didn't take any of the guys you've actually heard of and/or maybe watched one saturday afternoon in november. blah.
Nowhere did I say that this draft was a bad draft. After all, I gave it a C grade. As I also posted earlier, I really think that this draft sort of got away from them with several potential prospects getting taken just before the Texans' pick. It just worked out that way. To me, the biggest problem was having to use that 2nd round pick to get a QB when last year they passed on 3 potential franchise QBs. That skewed the draft for them, IMO because if they had been able to pick a WR in the 2nd round and then got an OL (preferably a tackle) in the 3rd, everyone would be feeling much better right now. The revisionist thinking now in vogue is to now blame PrettyDavid for the woes of the offensive line. I find that really laughable. Plainly put, this OL stinks. Yes, they got some good players in last year's draft but Spencer's injury casts a big "IF" on the OL. He comes back OK and it's all good and he'd better come back because their off-season pickups weren't exactly what you'd consider top-flight players. They gave up a lot to get a guy with the ability to possibly become a franchise QB but then they essentially give him the same OL that doomed PrettyDavid. I am forced to admit that I fail to understand their thinking here.
Which brain-damaged r****d are we talking about here: Casserly or the owner who stood by and watched him do that to his $700 million franchise? Sorry but I'm afraid that the Texans have just about run out of time. Asking for patience is OK but at some point, they have to show something to justify that patience. Winning does cure all ills. The sad thing is that it's nobody's fault but their own. The previous regime may have created this monster but it will be the current regime that will take the fall if things don't start to improve this year.[/QUOTE]
Most people were pretty high on the Texans after the 2004 season. Then the horrendous 2005 season happened and they made the necessary corrections to the front office. All signs point to a franchise on the rise, despite them taking Mario over VY. Just because you fail to realize it, they already have started to improve.
With whom? With you? That's fine and your prerogative, but if they ever start really piling up wins I'm sure you'll be around. No, it doesn't, according to what you've already said. Evidently, it has to be a certain type or number of wins. "Wow, if a 6 win season floats your boat, then I truly envy you..." You were crowing about "facts" earlier, and here's a "fact": in only its first season, the new regime tripled the win total from the previous year--and that with a revolving door at HB, season-ending injuries in the OL, and a stiff, crusty, crumbling turd at QB. I guess "winning cures all ills" only applies if it's 7 games or more? The statement was almost completely accurate, so I fixed it for you.
I absolutely HATE how "experts" grade drafts the day after the draft....it's so flippin idiotic it makes me sick. It is all based on potential and sexy skill position picks. Teams that draft lineman RARELY get high grades, because they don't look good on paper. You can't throw numbers around (stats, 40 times, combine numbers) on them. But every single really good football team has really good line play on both sides of the football. And yes, the Texans need more O-line help but with Thomas and Brown gone, who are the supposed to draft at #10 to help them? They would have to make a monumental reach and take Staley, and they would get ripped for that too. This year the Texans did the smart thing. Addressed a real need at DT and got a young, talented, impact-type of player at an excellent value. I don't see how "experts" or anyone can rip that pick. Hello, the Texans need help on defense as well and they got a very good value pick in Amobi Okoye. That's what counts in my book in looking at a draft the day after it happens, because you can't really "grade" a draft until 3-4 years down the road and see how guys turn out. So all you can go on is getting good value at the selection spot at a need position. Texans get a check-plus for that on the Okoye pick.
man, i can imagine what the Texans haters would be saying if they actually drafted an O-lineman at 10. "OH my gawd! How could they pass up on Okoye?"
I wasn't drinking the blue koolaid after 2004 because I had developed a bad feeling about this franchise. That loss at Cleveland really troubled me. Unfortunately, it was a harbinger of things to come. As for this being a "franchise on the rise", please. At best, this is a franchise that resembles what was left floating on the surface after the Titanic went down. It is barely threading water at this point in time and the waters are freezing cold and there are icebergs everywhere. Hmm, my crystal ball must be on the fritz because it hasn't shown me a lot of "improvement". I must remember to borrow DaDakota's. I'm sure that in time, it will eventually come but it's going to take far more time and effort than has been expended toward that goal to date. After all nothing lasts forever...I mean even the Oilers eventually started winning.
Maybe yes, maybe no. I've come to regard them in much the same way I do the Rockets & Astros. That is, I expect nothing from them. I expect neither wins nor losses, I just observe what is and how it got that way and try to figure out why things are the way they are. I simply don't have the emotional attachment to the Texans that I once held for the Oilers (because I grew up going to their games). I really wanted to but the past bumbling and stumbling made that all but impossible. But you are correct: It is my perogative to be a skeptic just as it's yours to buy into the Texans' company line. In the end, it's all subjective. It also explains why I don't give a rat's ass what the talking heads in the national media say or don't say about the Texans (especially when it's the truth) because it doesn't affect me in the least. The new regime tripled it's win total in just the first year of existence. Well Whoop De F'ng Do! Let's dust off that Lombardi trophy right now! Better yet, why don't we just chisel the Texans' name on it right now because we are on our way Babeee! Jeez! Things are so bad around here and standards are so low now that 6 wins (out of a total of 16) is a cause for celebration. Hey much appreciated! Typing with a broken finger is a biotch! P.S. I never heard PrettyDavid being described as a "stiff, crusty, crumbling turd" before. Please don't sugarcoat it, tell us how you REALLY feel about the guy...
