on a positive note.. this morning cnn.com was plastered with images from the manifesto.. and videos.. it was alllllllllllllllll about cho... cho cho cho cho. as of 2:00PM today? Virginia Tech victims live on in prayers, memories Now it's all about the victims. Honoring them. Making their lives known and memories celebrated. Cho is just a tiny blip on the front page now.. cheers.
I don't have a problem with them showing the tapes. My problem is showing them OVER AND OVER AND OVER again. That's what CNN and Fox were doing yesterday. Seriously, every time I channel surfed and passed one of those stations.... there it was again. Literally all night long. At one point, Fox News said "before we go to a break, let's take a moment to remember some of the victims" and showed a picture of one of the victims and flashed her name across the screen. Then, after about 5 seconds, they went RIGHT BACK to the tape with no warning whatsoever. Then a commercial. I thought that was pretty damn disrespectful.
I agree and as everyone could have guessed, it's now confirmed that he was bullied a lot back in school. http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/nation/4728846.html BLACKSBURG, Va. — Long before he snapped, Virginia Tech gunman Cho Seung-Hui was picked on, pushed around and laughed at over his shyness and the strange way he talked when he was a schoolboy in the Washington suburbs, former classmates say. Chris Davids, a Virginia Tech senior who graduated from Westfield High School in Chantilly, Va., with Cho in 2003, recalled that the South Korean immigrant almost never opened his mouth and would ignore attempts to strike up a conversation. Once, in English class, the teacher had the students read aloud, and when it was Cho's turn, he just looked down in silence, Davids recalled. Finally, after the teacher threatened him with an F for participation, Cho started to read in a strange, deep voice that sounded "like he had something in his mouth," Davids said. "As soon as he started reading, the whole class started laughing and pointing and saying, 'Go back to China,'" Davids said. Stephanie Roberts, 22, a fellow member of Cho's graduating class at Westfield High, said she never witnessed anyone picking on Cho in high school. "I just remember he was a shy kid who didn't really want to talk to anybody," she said. "I guess a lot of people felt like maybe there was a language barrier." But she said friends of hers who went to middle school with Cho told her they recalled him getting picked on there. "There were just some people who were really mean to him, and they would push him down and laugh at him," Roberts said Wednesday. "He didn't speak English really well, and they would really make fun of him."
I agree and it's too bad the culture of bullying will probably never end cause most of these killers are born through the abuse they go through in school, cause people are never born as murderers. I was never picked on in school and never picked on others, but I saw others do it, but never stopped them. It's hard as a kid cause school is all about fitting in and stuff and I usually knew the bullies either casually or were friends with them.
I was picked on in Elementary school. I also refused to speak in English class, and had a weird voice because of the FOB accent. Was also very shy and didn't talk to anyone up till 5th grade I think. Like I said, the guy woulda snapped at anything. Being bullied is part of growing up. If I had stayed in China, I woulda had other problems. Life has issues to deal with every time, the point is to grow despite those issues, not let them overtake you. And if you're the type who lets those things overwhelm you, then obviously the only way you coulda remained stable is if you were isolated from others, which it seems like this guy should have been.
even if everything you said is true: it's better to teach your kids not to do that. it's better to teach your kids to treat people with respect.
http://today.reuters.com/news/artic..._US-USA-CRIME-SHOOTING-NBC.xml&src=rss&rpc=22 By the way....some of the victims' families were scheduled for interviews with NBC. They cancelled them because they aired the videos and showed his pictures. Steve Flaherty, superintendent of the Virginia State Police, said at a news conference on Thursday investigators appreciated NBC's cooperation. However, he added, "We're rather disappointed in the editorial decision to broadcast these disturbing images."
nods, of course thats definetely better. But the reality is a lot of people don't, and even if they do there is no guarantee the kid won't be a bully at school but an angel at home. Ultimately the responsibility still falls on the person being picked on to grow from that.
The news networks couldn't WAIT to get these tapes on the air. They couldn't get them on the air quick enough. You know, the Columbine killers made about 45 minutes worth of videos the night before the shootings. According to most reports, they were VERY disturbing. These tapes have never been shown in the media.
no one is removing responsibility. but they are suggesting we can help not create monsters by treating people with dignity. give people a reason to find hope...not a reason to live in despair. that's good for them and for you.
lots of kids get picked on in school. its never going to change. sad reality. however, the kids who get picked on should learn that the world is full of evil and injustice and that they should strive to overcome. kids in poor countries are fighting to eat food.
I had hoped that with the proliferation of the Internet, this kind of thing wouldn't be shown on television any more. I think that if NBC receives something like this, they should make it available to those who want to see it. But it should be delivered on-demand. Broadcasting this kind of mess is now unnecessary.
All of that is easier said than done. For a lot of people high school sucked. Its just a weird time where we try to sort out who we are and how we fit into things. Even if kids are taught to be more respectful some kids who feel they are outsiders will also feel like they are being pitied or patronized. At the same time the race for popularity is cutthroat and for many kids once they have it they don't want to give it up. Even if that means being cruel. I don't want to sound too pessimistic here but I think this is always going to be a problem. While I don't subscribe full to social Darwinism adolescence often seems like a social Darwinian race for popularity.
Chang, this dude had no friends. none in highschool, none in college. something is wrong with that. What's wierd is that if he's Korean, then he should have found some Korean folk to hang with.
Is there a whole video of the Cho manifesto on the internet? Link? Or were just clips of it shown on the news?
