Yeah, and that's why its annoying me. I hate that they are covering the story for reason(s) that you mentioned.
Breaking News Va. gunman sent material to NBC BLACKSBURG, Va. - The Virginia Tech gunman sent photographs, videos and writings to NBC in New York before he died in the massacre that left 33 people dead, authorities said Wednesday. http://news.yahoo.com/
he reportedly sent the material inbetween the two shootings... it has also been announced that he was declared mentally ill and a danger to others in 2005 by the state of VA
Is it just me or is anyone else on here continuing to get more mad as all these details unfold. It seems like everyone around this kid knew the kid was messed up in the head and needed help. I just wish someone would have stuck with it to help him and maybe this wouldn't have happened!
it's probably a combination of things that lead to this. The most effective way to help prevent it in the future is not have easy access to guns. There were, are and will be psychos as long as there are human. Without easy access to mass-killing weapon such as guns, like in the past, it's much much harder to mass kill many people. Pure and simple, why is it so hard to grasp? How many more Vtech Columbine masscare has to happen before this country finally put a ban on easy access to guns. Consistituion can be changed. For crying out loud, it was made 200 some years ago.
Easy said. By accounts of his roomates, this guy was shy more than mean. Were they suppose to report all shy people. For the stuff he has done like stalking, taking pictures, we all know there are such people exist out there but not all of them will carry a gun start shooting people. I very much dislike how media manuplate the kids that lived with him. All of sudden, everybody else is a saint now. I can imagine those two kids interviewed on CNN being harrassed by vicitim's relatives. Some of the footage should have been cut out by CNN like they were smiling at the beginning taliking about Cho being weird.
where did you read that he was declared mentally ill? and what type of a danger was he to others? all I have read from nytimes is that he was referred to counseling, danger to others being a teacher feeling threatened and students feeling uncomfortable being around him. he was never charged seriously for anything, and the most serious it seems to be is stalking two girls who found his stalking to be annoying. so far, everything that has come out in the news would never have been able to prove that anyone would have known that he had teh capacity to go berserk
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/18/world/asia/18cnd-korea.html?hp here is an interesting article related to the korean society and some of the parents background
If someone would have tried to do something about it, they would have been told to not judge a book by its cover. Without solid proof that something like this was going to happen nothing would have been done.
Earlier in the day Wednesday, authorities disclosed that more than a year before the massacre, Cho was accused of stalking two women and was taken to a psychiatric hospital on a magistrate's orders because of fears he might be suicidal. He was later released with orders to undergo outpatient treatment. The disclosure added to the rapidly growing list of warning signs that appeared well before the student opened fire. Among other things, Cho's twisted, violence-filled writings and sullen, vacant-eyed demeanor had disturbed professors and students so much that he was removed from one English class and was repeatedly urged to get counseling. is it just me, but are these warning signs for a mass murderer????? what the hell is the press trying to prove? what is a magistrate order?
he was deemed a harm to himself, suicidal, no reports have shown that he was deemed harmful to society...
On Dec. 13, 2005, a magistrate ordered Cho to undergo an evaluation at Carilion St. Albans, a private psychiatric hospital. The magistrate signed the order after an initial evaluation found probable cause that Cho was a danger to himself or others as a result of mental illness. The next day, according to court records, doctors at Carilion conducted further examination and a special justice, Paul M. Barnett, approved outpatient treatment. A medical examination conducted Dec. 14 found that that Cho's "affect is flat. ... He denies suicidal ideations. He does not acknowledge symptoms of a thought disorder. His insight and judgment are normal." The court papers indicate that Barnett checked a form that Cho "presents an imminent danger to himself as a result of mental illness." Barnett did not check the box that would indicate a danger to others. He ordered Cho to comply with all recommended treatments on an outpatient basis. i am not an expert but the experts also did not see the WARNING signs. really when a guy wants to go off the deep freaking end, etc.. will be debated. and necessarily so, but this guy made a decision to do what he did, and the responsibility ultimately is his to take, but not much point in that now since he ended his own life, and so guns, media, society will be blamed. I am sure there are components to all of those things.
The only thing this incident is going to end up doing is making other psychos come out of the woodwork so they can go down in infamy as well. Go look at CNN and see the shooter posing with his guns. This is the type of coverage you will get if you do the same thing. You may be a nobody now...but tomorrow you can be something huge if you go crazy. The media and public ends up glorifying this tragedy. We eat this sh*t up. This sets everyone up for the next incident. I guess it cannot be avoided. As someone said, this is as "American as apple pie". We will feed off of this until there is nothing left. Then, the next one will come along and we will feed off of that until nothing is left. Few answers will come. Meanwhile, this guy gets his murderous rampage glorified. He gets his documentaries and his made-for-TV movies. In life, he was a nobody. Now, he will not be forgotten. It's messed up and it's not even close to being fair...not for the victims, the victims' families, not for anyone. The only question I have is "who, when, what, where is next?". It's just around the corner.
OK, flame me if this seems stupid. But what if every establishment- business, government, education, etc.- was required to have 1 type of "stun gun" on the premises with access by whoever is in authority at the time (teacher, principal, manager on duty, etc.). It wouldn't prevent all murders, but in a situation like this, if a professor had a stun gun that would paralyze the shooter for 2-4 minutes, wouldn't this prevent some of the "mass murder" situations? Or does this not make sense?
