hey right back at you ??????? when you first hear that someone is being KILLED!, you do not immediately think it is an isolated incident! YOU are already making an assumption as well, so i don't know what you are trying to argue for. It seems as if YOU KNEW that it was an isolated incident. You are saying everyone should get all the facts in before making a judgement call. killing is sufficient enough fact to take things SERIOUSLY.
Yeah that is true, during the LA riots Blacks revolted and much of their anger was directed towards the local Korean store owners who had business in primarily Black neighborhoods. The stores were set on fire and the owners were driven out. Keep in mind, there was existing Korean-Black tension in the LA area, as Blacks were not fond of Korean business in their area, as they were seen as a threat, while as most of the Koreans were recent immigrants without much money who didn't have much choice but to establish businesses in lower-income areas. As stated above, this was seen as a threat by many. Later, Black rioters came to Koreatown but were eventually driven out themselves as Korean store owners and residents held their own armed on top of roof tops .. Keep in mind, during the riots LA called in police and national guard to restore order but stayed only in the predominantly Suburban White areas, leaving the residents of Korea-town to fend for themselves.. All of this has added to the subtle (yet very much there) Korean-Black tension.. Much of this animosity is exclusive to LA, and not prevalent in other cities with large Korean and Black populations, such as New York for example. Also, many years later, the deliberate neglect of the Koreatown attacks, have many residents feel resentment towards the city of LA(and LAPD) about the handling of the situation.
If the perp had been dealt with after the first incident, then I could understand the reaction of the administration and the campus police. He/she wasn't. You had an unknown person, with firearms, who had just killed and wounded people on campus. You shut the place down until you are sure that person is taken down. In my opinion.
They have stated that they thought it was an isolated incident at that time. Not going to argue with you about it, we'll just have to have different opinions.
It was right for the media to raise the question regarding the police's response. Given the info we know, I think the response was appropriate (especially if they had some units patrolling the areas looking for the gunman after the 1st shooting, I don't know if they did) Closing the whole campus after the 1st shooting would have been an overkill, it's 20/20 hindsight. There are many shootings around the countries, you don't shut down everything because of isolated incidents.
again..i'm not suggesting we ban video games. i'm suggesting we embrace a culture that glorifies violence and then are shocked when we see it so graphically. video games like that are just a symptom of that culture, to me.
there are many shootings around the country where 32 people die? it wasn't just shooting and how do you know that it was an isolated incident? when there are people getting killed, you tell people to stay inside. it is obvious you don't have to state all the facts.
For anyone who wants, yahoo is streaming the convocation from VT live. http://l.yimg.com/cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/ver/225/popup-2007-04-06-1213/skins/49750.jpg
I have to agree...Nothing is perfect, however, you got to think something else should have happened...Lockdown, something... My prayers are with the family and friends that were affected by this senseless act...
You don't understand, after the 1st shooting there, there were 2 dead people. Should the police have shut down the whole campus? There are many other shootings, many murderers on the loose out there. Do you shut yourself in your house? Should everyone shut themselves in? I don't know it it was an isolated incident. How do you know it wasn't after the 1st shooting? How many times have you seen shooting where 32 people died? Very rarely, right ? It means ... you don't assume 30 more people were gonna die because 2 did, do you ?
were they positive that this was an isolated incident? i've never seen a tornado destroy my school when i was kid, but it didn't stop us from having tornado drills. you are saying shutting down a whole campus is logistically impossible. equating shutting down a campus with shutting down a whole city... no, shutting down a school is not a ridiculous response when murder is part of the equation. yes, and i do believe that you are downplaying this situation.
I agree in this one. And you dont know that they will be a shooting in a building which is vey far away that the one where happened the 1st shooting.
forget about 30, where have you went to school where 2 people were killed? forget about the response, when did that happen? where i have went to school, maybe heard of suicide, or drunken accidents, but never killing. this is normal?
I don't know, in hindsight, clearing out the campus after the first shooting would have obviously been the right thing to do. That is clear. But the police didn't have the benefit of hindsight here. How many times do we hear about someone murdering their boyfriend/girlfriend? How many times has that person gone on a rampage and killed another 30 people 2 hours later? Not saying the police were right or wrong here, I really don't know. I'm just saying that it's a very difficult situation without presidence.
I was watching a news channel, can't remember which one, but they were outside the supposed house of the parents and police, spectators, and other news outlets were there as well.
I did a quick look on Wiki, Virginia Tech campus is 2,600 acres, compared to UT Austin of 350 acres. According to the timeline on Wiki, the police were working on the 1st case actively.
