I agree. I don't like the clause that says they can't strike. I just wanted to point out that a general workers strike wouldn't have the same effect for the workers that it had for the air traffic controllers. It is ashamed that any worker isn't allowed to strike.
Not to derail the subject, but how were the air traffic controllers screwed? They willingly took employment and signed a contract knowing that if they struck they could be fired. They struck, they were given an ultimatum to return to work, many did not, they got fired.
they were basically a victim of a monopolistic practice Their skillz ties them to a business that can employ unfair wage practices without any reprisals Rocket River they fact that they could not work without the clause contract is unfair enough
They knew going in to their job what their limitations were. If they could not accept those limitations, then they should have sought other employment and worked on different skills. Most every business can employ what you call "unfair wage practices" without any reprisals.
I don't know if this new law is right or wrong, I don't know enough of the specifics, but French labor policies are really hurting them. I work for a huge global company that hires workers in almost every country imaginable. We have employees that are French, and they are usually pretty good employees. However, I know for a fact that my company now refuses to hire any more French workers in the future except for the bare minimum needed to operate. There is NOTHING merit based on the job in that country. It is purely tenure based. Hard working employees have no motivation to stay hard working, there is no reward for delivering good results. Also, if someone in France sucks at their job, or is lazy, or whatever, they can't be fired unless they commit a felony or something. Heck, my company actually bought out a ton of workers there, giving them an extra year of pay + whatever there package would have been just to get rid of a bunch of them. They basically have washed their hands of the whole country in terms of employment. No wonder they have almost 10% unemployment. I see their unemployment only growing higher and higher putting a strain on the government until some changes are made.
Isn't this similar to most unions in the U.S? A neighbor of ours is an airline union worker and his perks (e.g. shift) and pay are based on tenure. In addition, it is next to impossible to be fired if you are highly tenured.
there needs to be a medium because being able to fire a employee for no reason [the new law] is not good either Rocket River
That is how it is in Texas. An employer doesn't need a reason to let you go. They can just do it. I agree that people shouldn't be tenured to the point that the quality of their work doesn't matter, either. You should be able to fire someone because of their work habits, but you should have to have a good reason to fire someone, too.
well a company has to have good reason to have fired you if they don't want you to collect unemployment in tx.
If the company isn't making any money, that should be a good enough reason to lay people off. A big reason France has a 10% unemployment rate vs. US 4% is because of inflexible labor laws in France. Why would a struggling company want to hire an employee that they will be stuck with for years?
Not just kids. I wish everyone would be that passionate about politics. It would behoove people to be active and get their voices heard.
Let's here it for the D and D. We have been abused as ppo flingers, but we are passionate about politics!!! Even TJ, Bigtexx and Basso. Though for full discclosure I have to add that they are fools who no not what they are saying.
Under current French law, merit in the workplace has little sway. Workers cannot be easily or inexpensively fired. Do we really need to argue about lazy ass French students who don't want to work hard?
i'll take that over lazy ass americans who dont want to work hard to keep their constitution in tack as is currently the case.
Uh, ok. I'd actually sworn these off but its pretty appropriate considering unrelatedness of your comment. So...
its very appropriate and relevant. the discussions on lazyness and how even lazy ass french kids feel motivated when they believe their rights are being taken away. whereas we dont. and try not to bust out the webster to analyze my post.
Here, most white collar jobs are at will employment. You or your employer can terminate your relationship at any time. The French gov't want to have a tryout period, like the NBA rookie cap. These kids are fighting to continue their ridiculous entitlement. If they were only this passionate about their jobs.
