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CNN Has Now Become the Mouthpiece for the Terrorists Propaganda Campaign

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by El_Conquistador, Oct 19, 2006.

  1. FranchiseBlade

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    basso, you do seem to pick and choose here with regards to your stand on the war on terror. You criticize the Dems for not having a plan, yet taut Condi Rice for President even though her plan that she said from her own mouth that she thought best not to respond to the Cole bombing.

    You accuse media who publishes events from Iraq of having common cause with the terrorists, yet you refuse to acknowledge things such as the Al-Qaeda memo which states plainly that they hope the U.S. stays in Iraq.

    You are picking and choosing and your stance on the war on terror is incredibly inconsistent.
     
  2. rimrocker

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    Current stats: 2,788 dead, 44,779 non-fatal casualties. I guess it depends on what your boy Keegan means when he says "Casualties in Iraq are nowhere near those figures." 47,567 total casualties is certainly in the ballpark and to try and make that argument just shows how desperate your side has become.



    Yes, it is under 50,000 as noted above. But again, what's 10 or 20 or 30,000 more among us Republicans? Is the number of casualties acceptable until it reaches the levels of Vietnam? Incidentally, I'm glad we now know this because before the invasion, I asked on this board how many casualties people would be willing to accept. I was thinking the range of real casualties would be 500-1,000 (what an idiot I was)... at any rate, IIRC, not one person who supported the war answered except to say something like "As many as it takes." I guess we now know it takes as many as Vietnam.

    Also, the numbers are cherry-picked and the case presented in a way to make it seem like we routinely had 2,000 casualties a week in Vietnam. The author and the poster surely know this is not the case.

    And the stat about Americans not suffering 500 casualties a month in Iraq is bogus:

    10/06: 776
    08/06: 582
    07/06: 522
    10/05: 605
    11/04: 1,429
    04/04: 1,213

    To name a few. In fact, there have been 18 months that have had over 500 casualties and several more very, very close to that mark.

    (All stats from : http://www.icasualties.org/oif/)


    Just a comma, eh? Truly pathetic and absolutely morally bankrupt.
     
  3. ivanyy2000

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    Dems are bunch of cowards who have no vision, no plan and no balls. They only follow the polls and worry about being politically correct. However, Republicans are led by a group of stupid, corrupted, and greedy warmongers. They do everything to mess around.

    I really don't know which one is worse.
     
  4. vlaurelio

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    why do you equate dems with cowardice? are there no democrats and liberals who served and are serving in the military?
     
  5. El_Conquistador

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    Imagine that, lawmakers are upset that CNN is providing an audience for terrorists' propaganda, by dutifully airing a video that the terrorists gave them. The LibQaeda cell within CNN is hoisting this footage of an American being killed by a sniper's bullet as some kind of trophy. It's treason, plain and simple. Nancy Pelosi funding a marketing budget for Osama wouldn't even achieve this kind of success for the terrorists. While the liberals are busy aiding and abetting the terrorist cause, and helping to craft a terrorists' bill of rights, the rest of the country is trying to win the War on Terror. There is quite a distinction to be made here, folks.

    http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-sniper21oct21,1,2127335.story?ctrack=1&cset=true

    Lawmaker Outraged by Sniper Footage on CNN
    By Tony Perry, Times Staff Writer
    October 21, 2006

    SAN DIEGO — CNN has become "the publicist for an enemy propaganda film" by broadcasting a video showing an insurgent sniper in Iraq apparently killing an American soldier, the chairman of the House Armed Services Committee said here Friday.

    Rep. Duncan Hunter (R-El Cajon) called for the Pentagon to oust any CNN reporter embedded with U.S. troops in Iraq.

    "I think Americans like to think we're all in this together," Hunter said. "The average American Marine or soldier has concluded after seeing that film that CNN is not on their side."

    CNN said it broadcast the brief video to show the threat that insurgent snipers posed to U.S. troops.

    "Whether or not you agree with us in this case, our goal, as always, is to present the unvarnished truth as best we can," CNN producer David Doss wrote in a blog on the network's website.

    Tony Snow, President Bush's press secretary, said the insurgents were hoping to "break the will of the American people" by giving the video to CNN.

    The footage was shown first on CNN's "Anderson Cooper 360" program, of which Doss is executive producer, and then on several news shows. It remained on CNN's website Friday.

    Doss said CNN Baghdad correspondent Michael Ware received the video after communicating — through intermediaries — with Ibrahim Shammari, a spokesman for the Islamic Army.

    Doss said the decision to broadcast the video came after hours of "intense editorial debate."

    He said one compromise was made: The moment when the bullet hits the soldier's head is blacked out. The soldier's face and unit patches were not clear, so identifying him was impossible, CNN said.

    Rep. Brian Bilbray (R-Carlsbad), who with Hunter and Rep. Darrell Issa (R-Vista) sent a letter to Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld, called the film "nothing short of a terrorist snuff film."

    Snow, at his regular news briefing in Washington, said the video was misleading because it made it appear that Americans were "sitting ducks" and that insurgents were winning the war. In truth, he said, insurgents "are dying in much greater numbers and suffering much greater damage."

    The Pentagon had no comment on the video.

    Embedded reporters sign pledges not to show the faces of dead American troops until their families are notified, but nothing prohibits the use of pictures in which identities are not discernible.
     
  6. updawg

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    TJ you up early to watch the UT game?
     
  7. Texas Stoke

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    This just goes to show I am right when I say Liberals are down there with Islamic Terrorists. No, they are worse. At least with Islamic Terrorists, you know what they're about, what they're intentions are. Liberals on the other hand, they are damn snakes, slithering around under this guise of moral superiority that they think gives them the right to do anything they damn please. men in uniform be damned, goverment be damned, countrymen and country be damned, all in the name of their intellectual morality. it makes me sick!
     
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    Is this a joke? Either way it is absolutely hilarious.
     
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    A couple of days after this story has broken, and after talking in various settings with a few people who are conservatives and finding out how the 'story' of this video was disseminated, I have no doubt that this uproar was manufactured and the story has been distributed to rally disenchanted heartland conservatives with strong patriotic leanings around the Republican Party flag.

    I guess in desperation they are reverting to the old tactic that anger is great at suspending rational thought processes and decision making. If anything, in my mind this story and the surrounding uproar indicate the sad state of the Republican political machine, and a clear awareness and on their part of the disaster which awaits them at the midterms and their feelings of desperation.
     
  10. jo mama

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    is bush a liberal, because it seems to me like he has been the terrorists greatest asset for the last 6 years or so?
     
  11. Major

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    It worked perfectly on T_J, basso, Texas Stoke, etc.
     
  12. FranchiseBlade

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    While I disagreed with their arguments, sometimes they made sense in that it helped provide an understanding of why they felt the way they did. But lately what they are saying doesn't make even make sense. It is like it is from a world devoid of reality.
     
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    i guess you're being sarcastic but i'll play. the terrorists need attention to be relevant. bush has put out a challenge to millions of desperate young men willing to die for a cause. bush has given them, at least in their minds, ample cause.
     
  14. crums17

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    Okay, it may be a couple days late but, I won't speak in extremes.

    Obviously the Iraq war was a mistake. Arguing party politics from here is just ridiculous. What do we do about Iraq?

    I still stick to my earlier contention that if every Iraq war supporer is a p***y. Just to make it fair, I'll say that any Iraq war supporter in college is a p***y. Join up Nancy!
     
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    Nice one. I slipped while typing the r in 'your'. That's totally relevant. You hillbillies are very mature.

    Without breaking down your other crap in too much detail, I will say that registering for the largest public school in the country, as quality an education as it may be, does not instantly make you less of a redneck. I'm really glad that you go to UT and that you can't obtain a "soapbox" because you represent the inbred portion of the student body there.

    Like all other hillbillies/conservatives, you've resorted to attacking the semantics of what I said rather than the substance.

    Seriously though, you're in college, how can you justify not joining a war effort that you feel is vital?
     
  16. FranchiseBlade

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    What the heck is this? This is not debating or discussing but attacking the person who posted rather than substance. That is hardly an improvement over the tactic of attacking the semantics that you seem to bemoan here.
     
  17. FranchiseBlade

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    A lot of this is echoed by Olbermann
     

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