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[CNN.com] Justice Finally Served for Hispanic Teen...

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Two Sandwiches, Nov 18, 2006.

  1. Sishir Chang

    Sishir Chang Member

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    If this was at a party and there were several witnesses why didn't anyone try to stop him? This is the first I've heard of this case but I find it troubling that someone could be brutalized like this while others were watching and not stopping.

    Does anyone know anything more about this case?
     
  2. Two Sandwiches

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    There was a HUGE article about it a while back. Many were outraged. It happened in Spring.

    From what I remember, there was a party with only a few people, and this hispanic kid tried to make a pass at the defendant's sister. He, being a skinhead, got mad, and had a friend take the kid outback with him (I don't know if this is after everyone left or not, but nobody was around), where they kicked him until he was unconscious (with steel toe boots), then sodomized him with a sharpened plastic patio umbrella pole (which included kicking the pole while it was in the kid), then poured bleach over his entire body in order to try and hide DNA. Then, they left the kid for dead. He was found something like 10 hours later, and doctor's never really gave the guy a chance to survive. Somehow, he did.


    I think, if I recall, the guy went to Klein Oak high school (if that means anything to you, being an out of towner), and I'm sure many posters can sympathize with him (I know I sure did...my uncle went to that high school...my uncle's only 24). Actually, I (or it was probably another poster on here) found the kid's myspace, and the response on there was just absolute overwhelming and heartwarming.

    This case affected me a whole lot. I'm not hispanic, either - just plain 'ole white. I just can't believe what some human beings will do to one another for such stupid reasonings. It's beyond sick.
     
  3. vlaurelio

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    let me guess, who has more chances of survival? I'm sure its not the guy who gets a sharpened pole sticked up his ass while someone is violently kicking the pole on the other end.. :rolleyes:
     
  4. DrewP

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    I would probably beat the **** out of a kid that tried to steal my drugs and make a drunken pass at my 12-year-old sister. Maybe I wouldnt be as creative as ramming a pole in his butt, but this isn't some random racial beating.
     
  5. Cohen

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    How do you know... has anyone ever tried to steal your drugs?


    ;)
     
  6. Smokey

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    He won't and he can't. He uses the OJ trial as an example. Next.
     
  7. JuanValdez

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    Everyone, please don't quote the trolls.
     
  8. Xerobull

    Xerobull ...and I'm all out of bubblegum
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    This was attempted murder and he got what he deserved. Hopefully there will be some poetic justice in prison.
     
  9. Agent94

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    This guy definately deserves the time he got. But hate crime laws are stupid. All violent crimes are hate crimes. Why does the race of the people involved matter? If a white beats the crap out of another white like this he should get life too.
     
  10. F.D. Khan

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    This guy deserves life in prison. It had to be attempted murder and this guy already has a history. Throw him in prison and throw away the key.

    But I agree with Drew's point (not about the drugs as I don't do that), but if some 17 year old kid made a drunken pass at my 12 year old sister and was trying to steal from me, I would probably beat his a$$ too. It wasn't as if they just found some hispanic kid to beat up, but this guy was an idiot and put himself in a bad situation. Therefore I would not see this as a race/hate crime.

    Now he's being painted as an innocent victim, but his actions being drunk and on drugs, stealing and making a pass at a 12 year old girl is playing with fire.
    Hopefully this guy learned a lesson as well.
     
  11. RocketMan Tex

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    Examples please. "I've heard of cases....." is a cop out.
     
  12. macalu

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    i agree. it's not illegal to hate someone b/c of their skin. yet, to use that against someone in a crime is ludicrous.
     
  13. Mr. Brightside

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    I disagree. Alot of violent crimes are done in the name of theft.
     
  14. macalu

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    have you seen what 12 year old girls look like these days? i'm not defending either side, but 12 year olds can pass for 17 year olds, as well as 17 year olds for 22.
     
  15. Jeff

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    Either produce the actual sources of your claims, say you were mistaken or stop posting. It is your choice.

    You know, there is ridiculous, inappropriate and downright stupid. Guess which category this one is in?
     
  16. Summer Song Giver

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    Hmm, if I was the "Hispanic teen" in this case, I'm not sure if I would feel justice had been totally served but then again, maybe that's just me.
     
  17. bladeage

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    agreed. Plus the kid wasnt even an adult, he was 17, its not like he was doing something illegal in making a pass at the chick. He was drunk, he didnt know. I don't think it would have mattered if the kid was hispanic, I'm pretty sure a white kid would have gotten the crap beat outta him too.
     
  18. Xerobull

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    You forgot to add "your honor". ;)
     
  19. F.D. Khan

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    1.) I thought 17 was considered adult. 17 year olds are seniors in high school and 12 year olds are in 6-7th grade. I'm remembering back, but that was a PRETTY Big difference especially at that age.

    2.) "He was drunk, he didn't know" Thats a sorry excuse for any action.

    3.) I agree that even if the kid was white and he made a drunken pass and tried to steal these kids drugs, he would've gotten the tube.
     
  20. Mr. Brightside

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    tell me about it!

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