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CNN- Abortion Rights Protests Pack Mall

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by twhy77, Apr 26, 2004.

  1. twhy77

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    Interesting story bit off topic...

    My roomie had a sister who died when she was in college. Growing up she would go and pray at this abortion clinic and do sidewalk counseling for women thinking about getting an abortion. She prayed there about 5 times a week since she was little and when she'd come home from college.

    The Catholic Church states somewhere that it takes 6 years minimum (don't ask how they came up with that) to become beatified, and do you know that on the exact 6th anniversery of her death, that same abortion clinic she had prayed at had to shut down. The exact day! Coincidence maybe. I tend to think no.
     
  2. twhy77

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    I don't support the death penalty in America. Next.
     
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    next. Next. Next. Next.




    It's just a word.
     
  4. twhy77

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    yeah that's about how many were there for the Pro-life march, which CNN gave an estimate of like 10,000-20,000. They might ahve had a little bit more, but they had their march on a Sunday in Spring whereas we had ours on Roe vs. Wade day, no matter what day of the week...(it was Thursday this year)
     
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    OK, so riddle me this? If a pregnancy was sure to kill a mother, would it then be criminal for her to abort the child? Which life is more important?
     
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    you will always have great numbers of people to protest something than to support a law already on the books

    if abortion rights ever were taken away, you would see pro-choice protests that would dwarf any pro-life one
     
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    Sorry Brah, but I hate supernatural stories like this. Credibiltiy goes way down.
     
  8. twhy77

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    ok.
     
  9. GladiatoRowdy

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    They removed an unwanted growth.
     
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    Once again, this has been discussed ad nauseam way back, but when you do the process to try and remove the child, your intent is not to kill it but to save both parties. Unfortunately, this process often fails and so the child dies. But the intent is not to kill. Their is a big difference.
     
  11. GladiatoRowdy

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    IMO, the mother's life is more important unless and until SHE decides to sacrifice her life for the fetus, which should be her choice and nobody else's.
     
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    Growth of what!!!
     
  13. GladiatoRowdy

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    Again, you are trying to argue that there is a "someone else" here where one doesn't exist. It is a mass of cells, a growth, and will not be anything more until the mother decides to bring it to term and bear it. Then and only then does it become a life.
     
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    A growth of cells that is unwanted. Could be cancer, a mole, or a fetus. The point is that it is the woman's choice what to do with it.
     
  15. GladiatoRowdy

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    She might be the finest.
     
  16. GladiatoRowdy

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    No, it is a mass of cells until it can live outside the mother. If the woman chooses, it might BECOME a human, but until then, it is a growth, a mass of cells that is more analagous to a tumor than a human.

    The conceived embryo is a mass of cells until it can live sans the biological processes of the mother.


    Puh-leeeze.

    :rolleyes:
     
  17. GladiatoRowdy

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    What does this have to do with the argument?
     
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    Andymoon, when do you think a fetus obtains consciousness?
     
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    growth of cells = growth of tissue

    growth of tissue = growth of organs

    growth of organs = growth of systems

    growth of systems = growth of a living creature.

    very early on, the heart starts beating...a system is in place..a heart, independent of the mother's beats and provides blood/nutrients throughout the fetus' body. on it's own. don't make me post the development chart again, andy! :) we have doctors saying that babies are dreaming in the womb. we have doctors that say that personalities are formed in the womb. we have reaction to stimulus. and we have pre-term babies born all the time, who with the help of medical science, grow up and do just fine. argue what you want...but don't say it's not life without giving a clear and concise definition of what life is. we protect unborn animals under endangered species laws.
     
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    The zygote is distinctive from her mother, father, and all other living things. She has her own unique and complete genetic fingerprint, distinct from either of her parents. The zygote manifests all the characteristics of biological life: metabolism, growth, reaction to stimuli, and reproduction (cellular) She carries human DNA with a genetic signature. She is a self contained, self intergrating living entity with her own nature. From conception, she has everything necessary to proceed through the full series of human developemental stages. No other human single cell has this inherent capacity.
     

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