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Clyde The Glyde Vindicates Almu!...sort of...

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Almu, Nov 19, 2007.

  1. hotballa

    hotballa Contributing Member

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    I thought you were gonna tell us that Clyde was talking about a tech firm that was hiring...

    oh nvm ;)
     
  2. hermbob

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    If there's anything I DON'T form my opinions from, it's ESPN. Thanks for the assumption though.
     
  3. weslinder

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    What does it matter? If MJ would have played the whole season, how would that have kept Penny from eating him alive in the playoffs?

    The simple fact is, that by the time Jordan came back, he was no longer an elite defender. Without an elite defender in the post to clean up behind him, Jordan wouldn't have won the last three championships.
     
  4. AroundTheWorld

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    LOL weslinder, your signature makes me go :D.
     
  5. robbie380

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    so in your opinion do you think dream would have won more championships with a healthy sampson and with teammates that weren't coked up? or if he was paired up with drexler for 10 years like jordan had pippen?
     
  6. AntiSonic

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    Robert Horry's 7 rings > Jordan's 6! :p

    But seriously, you can't really look at it as 6 consecutive rings no matter how you try to.

    Those two three-peat teams were completely different. If the Spurs hadn't given Rodman to Chicago, I'm not so sure Jordan would have ever gotten out of the East again.

    It should also be noted that no team has won more than three consecutive championships since the mid-60s. Even Shaq and Kobe couldn't do.
     
  7. Almu

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    My friend...

    Dream was a better PLAYER. He can score like MJ. Played defense just as good. He blocked shots better. Had just as many steals. And changed the game every time he stepped on the floor.

    With the possible exception of his Airness, who could do all that? And since MJ didn't have a winning record versus Dream in their prime (I think thats true), that makes him the better PLAYER.

    I didn't say who won the most rings. I didn't say who had the best team.

    Whos a better QB? Marino or Aikman? Whos the better player? A-Rod or Jeter?

    Rings mean CRAP in this argument. We are talking players.
     
  8. Almu

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    LOL!!!

    Good comeback! LOL!
     
  9. durvasa

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    I think Jordan was easily the better offensive player, and Hakeem was easily the better defensive player.
     
  10. hermbob

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    If rings mean "CRAP" then let's compare career accomplishments. How many scoring championships for each? How many MVPs for each?

    Whether we're talking rings or stats, Jordan > Dream
     
  11. hermbob

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    "Jordan's individual accolades and accomplishments include five NBA MVP (Most Valuable Player) awards, ten All-NBA First Team designations, nine All-Defensive First Team honors, fourteen NBA All-Star Game appearances and three All-Star MVPs, ten scoring titles, three steals titles, six NBA Finals MVP awards, and the 1988 NBA Defensive Player of the Year Award. He holds the NBA record for highest career regular season scoring average with 30.1 points per game, as well as averaging a record 33.4 points per game in the playoffs. In 1999, he was named the greatest North American athlete of the 20th century by ESPN, and was second to Babe Ruth on the Associated Press's list of athletes of the century."

    Pretty self-explanatory.
     
  12. crose

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    And one hermbob deepthroat!
     
  13. Deji McGever

    Deji McGever יליד טקסני

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    Thanks Almu, that was a treat.
     
  14. Almu

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    You said championships. Now we talking other qualifiers.

    Just my opinion then. From what I saw, Dream was better.

    Anyways, Clyde says he could be the best. Who am I to argue anyways?
     
  15. AntiSonic

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    I have to agree with most of this, however, I don't think it's completely honest to say that Olajuwon could score like Jordan. While Dream may have been unstoppable once he got the ball down low, he still required someone to get it to him. Jordan did not.

    But defensively, Olajuwon was just on another planet. Since he has the all-time record for blocks, just imagine how many more shots he changed just by being in the paint?

    People tend to buy into the Jordan mystique and overrate him defensively while forgetting that Pippen more often than not had the task of guarding other teams' primary scorers.
     
  16. Blake

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    Last time I checked, MJ's Bulls got knocked out of the playoffs by a team that went on to get swept in the Finals. Ring a bell?
     
  17. Drexlerfan22

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    Really now? Hmm... "MJ is the best ever, period." What's your criteria then? Most plays on a highlight reel?

    Have you never heard of Wilt Chamberlain, Bill Russell, and Kareem Abdul Jabbar?
     
  18. BackNthDay

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    It would have helped Clyde to finish his college education, specifically the Freshman and Sophmore english classes. I think he skipped those. It also helps to have an ex wife thats an attorney.
     
  19. Achilleus

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    No, you said Olajuwon won when Jordan "wasn't playing." Jordan was playing in 1995. You were wrong.
     
  20. Achilleus

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    Wrong or trying your hardest to make Olajuwon's championships seem less valuable by pretending Jordan wasn't there...
     

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