[ClutchFans] Why Kyle Lowry could become the next Aaron Brooks

I'd only consider taking Paul because he increases to likely hood of getting another superstar.

 

lmao @ you acting like danny granger is a bum.

 

Joe Johnson isn't a PG (and his numbers are way down this year). Kidd is 38, Nash is 37. Rubio has playing terrible in the Euroleague from what I've read. Rondo is debatable - Im sure if you surrounded Lowry with the same cast his numbers would be just as good, probably better since he can shoot from the outside and doesn't make as many risky passes as Rondo does.

Factoring in age, injury history, salary, leadership, talent, and ability, the only PG's I'd take over Lowry right now are Deron, Rose, Westbrook, and Wall.

-James

 

Don't jinx him already!

 

What about Monta Ellis? Is he considered a Superstar? I think he is a fantastic scoring point guard (i.e. Rose) and he likes to take the shot during crunch time. The point has been made in several threads that we don't have a closer in crunch time. He is that closer. He is also a willing passer. Given that Adelman likes to play two point guards together, (Brooks/Lowry, now Lowry/Dragic) he could fit in next to Lowry or Dragic. But what would it take to get him? With Curry, I don't think GS has a strong need for Lowry. Would GS consider Martin to be an upgrade at SG? We don't have a rebouding big which is what GS really needs.

 

Would rather have Lowry at his salary any day over Paul or Deron Williams at the max. I will be disappointed if the Rockets ever give max money to a distributing point guard.

 

Very interesting thoughts.

 

Honestly this season has made me realize how overrated these superstars are. In Miami, you have three superstars teaming up and they were supposed to break the balance in the NBA. Instead, they got punked by Portland and ended up crying their hearts out. Celtics are another team that was supposed to have three superstars on the team, but the only time they won a ring was when they had the big 3, all star calibre pg and center, and a whole slew of veteran subs to back them up.

I'm not saying don't get a superstar, its just that gutting your team to get just one superstar isn't worth it. The hornets have Paul, a defensive C in Okafor and a good pf in West and they still suck balls. Magic looks like they're gonna lose DH in free agency, and Williams? It doesn't seem like trading for him has had any instant impact on the Nets at all. The point is very few superstars in the NBA are worth the 20M a year they're making, most of them can't equal the production of two 10M players.

With Lowry, he gives you a complete player at a bargain of a contract. He can make plays, he can defend the best pgs in the league and he can shoot. If you want to contend in the NBA you've got to have a smorgasbord of talent on the roster, and Lowry being so cheap allows you to do that. I personally wouldn't trade him for Williams or Paul unless you can get them without gutting the roster, I'd rather keep Lowry at his contract and then spend the money you save elsewhere.

 

Great Read, Thanks Clutch
Kyle Lowry really shows he is going to be an all-star already...

 

Thanks, Clutch, but I'd trade either one, or both, along with Lowry for a Deron Williams, a Derrick Rose, or a healthy Chris Paul. I love Luis, but I love the idea of a superstar on the Rockets making us a destination again much, much more. Yao did that. Yao's done, short of a miracle. (I'm hoping for a miracle, but I'm not losing sleep over the guy any longer)

 

I thought the thread was about KL becoming a Ball-hog, it happened in some games, while Scola was still on court.

I hope he realizes that he earned the PG starting spot over AB by not being a ball-hog, and that star caliber PG usually are not ball-hogs.

If Lowry improves his capabilities in O, fine, but he should not forget to be a PG first (specially when there are other capable scorers on court, not in these last games without Scola), and he'll succeed on long term.

 

let me tell you this, withou Paul, the hornets will be like the clippers, and out of the playoffs for many many years, and west will look like a douchebag out there

with him ,they are a 4-6 spot

without rose, the bulls will only hang around the 8 spot in the east , all the players on the bulls will suddenly become unwatchable....

and with him they are championship contender.....

that's what a superstar can do..

 

If all these players in the league are overrated, then who is "rated"?

Seems like improvement to me. I've commented on it a few times, but NBA out of all leagues has the most valuations of "overrated" about its players. Even the best in their craft that get MVP trophies and Defensive Player of the Year awards are overrated pieces of dog meat.

The NBA rules now favor ALL GUARD'S play so it does in effect even out the position throughout the league. Though what is "Darren Collison is all you need" doing in Indiana?

I've liked Lowry since his Villanova days. But I'd trade Lowry away for Chris Paul and Deron Williams without any qualms at all.

 

A bad contract is one you can't get rid of, if we needed the space, both players could be given away for basically nothing (like Miami did)

 

If we're taking the "how would they do without x" approach, Dwight Howard would be so far in front it's not even funny.

 

Granger isn't even as good as Lowry this season. He's also 3 years older making 6 million more. Kinda sounds like a Bum.

 

Good article.....up until you used the phrase "healthy Yao Ming".

 

Why is that the further into mediocrity we are pushed the more the fans accept it?

We were a perennial playoff team with McGrady, always talked about with the other big dogs in the conference, yet we couldnt wait to get rid of him and be not as good. Sure he was a douchebag, but ffs atleast we were winning more often than not.

Kyle Lowry is great, but he isnt Chris Paul or Deron Williams, not even close. If you have the opportunity to get a superstar or even anything close to one, you jump all over it.

 

The Rockets were already a playoff team before trading for McGrady. The problem when they traded McGrady wasn't because he was traded but that they did it too late.

You make out that the Rockets would be better than they are now if McGrady wasn't traded. He's done.

 

People were ready to ship out McGrady before it was certain he was done. Regardless, this isnt really the point. The point is, you go after any and every superstar you can.