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[ClutchFans] Tracy McGrady's Houston Return: Before, During and After

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Clutch, Dec 7, 2010.

  1. shortfuse3

    shortfuse3 Member

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    I booed T-Mac because for the past 2 years he was on the team, every day was like watching Days of our Lives.

    He gave us 1 and a half good years, that i'm thankful for, but for 3 and a 1/2 years he was a nuisance on and off the court. The stuff he'd say to the media was utterly ridiculous. Combine that with the lack of effort he'd have on the court, it's so easy to see why the people of Houston boo him.

    I think the entire city of Houston, as well as Morey and Adelman breathed a huge sigh of relief the second T-Mac was not a Rocket anymore.
     
  2. shortfuse3

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    It's one thing to be hurt. It's another thing to be whining and moaning about it to anyone who has a pair of ears.

    It's also another thing to say, "increase my minutes", when you clearly aren't capable of playing more than 10 minutes a game.

    When T-Mac played, he said he was hurt. When T-Mac was hurt, he said he wanted to play. So which is it?

    I think I speak for everyone in the Rockets organization that i'm so glad the T-Mac soap opera is finished.
     
  3. sammy

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    Great post. I recognize the good with the bad. He had some amazing moments where he played his heart out and some moments which left me saying...just stfu.

    Who knows what could have been in 04 without Donaghy and the other corrupt officials.

    This is the past now. Let's move on.
     
  4. YaoMac09

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    Classic TOF, I am not blaming him for getting surgery or being injury, I am blaming him for getting surgery DESPITE THE ROCKETS MEDICAL TEAM SAYING HE DIDN'T NEED SURGERY and not telling anyone important about it.

    Understand now?
     
  5. Tom Bombadillo

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    I don't care If he averaged 86 points a game. Tracy deserves every bit of criticism and mockery that he recieves. Respect is earned, not given.

    Let us not talk about how he stabbed his teammates in the back.
    Or his coaches.
    Or his city.
    Let's not talk about depth perception.
    Let's not talk about the "Lakers will win the title"...

    Instead, Let us talk about the "It's on me" quote.

    "If we lose these games, It's on me"

    After we lose...

    Sarcasm.

    A trend?

    He quit on the Magic. He quit on the Rockets. He was cut by the Knicks.

    The inside scoop was that Battier hated his guts. He never came to training camp in shape. He did not put in the work required to be what he could have been, a top 5 player in the history of this game. He took the easy way out, the lazy way out. He throws his teammates under the bus, and then makes snide remarks about everything being his fault. Shane and Chuck, as limited as they are offensively, covered his ass every night. They did ALL the dirty work.

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  6. acsorelle4

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    Did not read.
    Cue Samwell gif.
     
  7. Ramathorn006

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    I respect your opinion for sure. But I went to T-Mac's last game as a Rocket vs. the Clippers (one of his last games) and the guy clearly could have played more than 10 minutes. His passing ability and play making ability is still there and that alone is worth more than 10 minutes of pt.
     
  8. Tom Bombadillo

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    Quoted
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  9. DBrunk01

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    How about, I'm a grown man and I can boo whoever the hell I want to? Is that cool?

    I think McGrady is a drama queen and a douche, so while I didn't boo, I understand those who did. And even if I didn't understand it, what do I care? Boo all you want. Cheering and booing is kinda part of being a fan I thought.

    But just for the record, anyone who says "all the stuff he did/accomplished" should be F'n slapped upside the head. He didn't accomplish jack crap. Hakeem accomplished something. Moses Malone accomplished something. And by the way, as much as I loved it that year, that 22 game winning streak doesn't mean much either other than being a cool note in the history books, BECAUSE WE DIDN'T WIN ANYTHING.

    Jesus, some of you really need to raise your standards for success.

    The fact that we're having people mad because people want to boo a perennial first round loser who flat quit on his team is ABSURD. Hell, even Scottie Pippen gave a friggin' effort here. He was exposed, but at least he played. And... played hurt? Geeeeeeez. Get the F outta here.
     
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    It's true. He wasn't a part of a team after that. I want him out of this team after what he did. It's about Rockets, not McGrady.

    But he had a chance to prevent it. we were out of playoffs race, he was injured, he needed a surgery (and a couple of month rest, so it will be a season ending if it would happen in February), he hadn't any chances to win it all, he hadn't Yao and our new valuable players (Scolandry) were raw, so he can ask about surgery and save his career and a franchise. But he didn't do it. And knee was getting from worse to worst with every game he played.

    And his knee problems started there. Not in a year with Artest
     
  11. Tom Bombadillo

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    Post more often. Absolutely 100% correct...


    "It is a waste of time and effort to go back over all of his empty promises and contradictions from the start of training camp or over his four-plus seasons in Houston. Just say this: He is an extraordinary talent - T-Mac - who is capable of taking your breath away. Yet as a competitor - Tiny Tim-mac - he can be blown away in a gentle breeze."
     
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    Mcgrady did more on the court than any other Rocket since Hakeem. (Take that for what its worth...)

    Not gonna boo the guy, because he made more good memories than bad, and honestly without Mcgrady the franchise would of been even worse during those years.
     
  13. Ramathorn006

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    First and foremost im not a T-Mac only fan, I am a Rocket fan. If I was a T-Mac only fan I would be on a Detroit Pistons fan site. That sh** pisses me off.

    Medical team never said he DID NOT NEED SURGERY. They wanted to evaluate his situation further before deciding to proceed to surgery. But McGrady's mistake, as you said, was telling Steven A. Smith that he was getting the surgery without informing anyone in the Rockets organization.

    http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/front/6268327.html
     
  14. studogg

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    You'll remember the "streak" for the rest of your life???? Really? It was that special to you? Were you on the team or something? Don't get me wrong, it was exciting, but it wasn't a defining moment that you should never forget.
     
  15. _RTM_

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    this decision definetely cost him career.

    Morey didn't trade him in 08 summer. He had a chance to get Billups and Prince for Mac and filler, but he, Les and Rick appreciated what he did that year and DM didn't trade him

    But he knows about a possibility of having the best defensive team in decade with Yao and Deke in the middle, Prince, Battier, Artest and Chauncey as forwards and guards and with Scola or Landry, maybe Von and somebody else of the bench.

    He thought that Mac was more valuable than that. :eek: It's hard but this true. It's about belief in him after what he did
     
  16. Tom Bombadillo

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    Tracy McGrady tarnished the legacy of the Houston Rockets more than any other Rocket since Snottie Pippen. (Take that for what it's worth...Or maybe it doesn't matter, to you)


    We were beat in the first round with Steve and Cat.


    We would have accomplished the same with or without Stacy.


    A first round playoff exit.
     
  17. YaoMac09

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    ""We’re still waiting on second opinions, and then we’re going to decide which direction we’re going to go," Morey said at Wednesday night’s Tux & Tennies Charity Gala at Toyota Center. "That was the plan originally, and that’s still the plan. I just talked to his agent (Arn Tellem).

    "Tracy hasn’t seen the doctor who would likely perform whatever procedure he ends up doing. The decision on the next step is still to be determined. Obviously, the most important person in the decision is Tracy. We think it’s best he hears all options before deciding on the final course of action."

    "When McGrady said how "we" feel, he apparently was not including the Rockets."

    ""I found out like everybody else did," Adelman said. "I think there should be a protocol there. There should be a procedure where we have a chance to sit down and talk about a situation and not (have it) announced in the press. I don’t know why that happened, why he did that. It certainly is not the way it should be handled."


    That still reads: The Rockets did not think TMac needed surgery at that point in time but TMac went off and decided to get it anyways.
     
  18. dobro1229

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    Look... Rockets fans went through a two year soap opera with this guy where he said he was coming back and talked himself up, and then came up with excuse after excuse.

    Rockets fans have every right to boo him but alot of them did not. He got some boos, mixed with some cheers, and some yawns.... it is what it is... It was a relationship from the past that ,although it had its ups and downs, is overwith... you and some of the other fans on here defend him with heavy emotions while some fans are the exact opposite.

    He is a polorizing sports figure because he is who he made himself out to be. Love me or hate me, this is who I am. Guess what, some fans will love him and some will hate him. Get over it.

    I have my personal opinions on T-Mac and even though I personally believe he was a problem last year and talked himself up way too much to the press, I dont hate him as a person, but as a player, Yes he deserves a boo or two.

    Tracy McGrady is no longer a Rocket, we wish him well... and let that be that.... YOU DONT HAVE TO DEFEND EVERYTHING ABOUT WHO HE IS.. STOP
     
  19. Ramathorn006

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    And that's exactly what I said lol. Oh well, it's over and I honestly don't care anymore. I just want Iguodala on this team. Thats about it, and I think we are good to go for a run. Hopefully Yao can make it back with no minute restrictions.
     
  20. PigMiller

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    There were numerous instances of him throwing players under the bus, besides the one . He threw the entire 04-05 team (the best Rockets team he played for) under the bus when he blabbed that if he had a team like the one we had in 08-09, he would've gone a lot further in the playoffs than he had. He also openly dreamed of heading back to Orlando while playing for the Rockets. He also said that if he had a big man like Howard (while being a teammate of a healthy Yao Ming) earlier in his career he would've gone a lot further as well. I could even take it a setp further when he complained about the actual arena he played in and how bad the "depth perception" is when trying to explain away a bad stretch of shooting percentage. I'll stop there.

    He put it all on the line for us? First of all, that's debateable, since there's numerous examples of him loafing and even flat out quitting. The Toronto game for instance is an obvious example. But, accepting your premise....how does that deserve any praise if he did in fact "put it all on the line"?!?!? That's what your premier player, the highest paid player in the league, SHOULD do. You don't get a cookie for that.

    You're damn right I would bring up the $ issue. There's a certain amount of professionalism that's expected not only out of a professional athlete, but the highest paid player in the league. You shouldn't get temper tantrums, going to the media and complaining instead of keeping issues in house, and unilateral decisions to end your season out of a player earning that much money. And say what you will about how it was handled by Adelman and the front office....they were ultimately proven RIGHT about their assessments, and McGrady has been proven WRONG for going on a year and a half now.

    So, you GTFO.
     
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