[ClutchFans] Top 5 Teams For Rockets To Plunder in Trades

Thanks for the fantastic overview, Clutch. A lot to mull over.

It's surprising that Stoudamire was Morey's top target last trade deadline. I thought Morey said he was most interested in getting Caron Butler of the Wizards. But maybe that was just a smokescreen?

The Phoenix trade scenerio is definitely the best of the bunch, though Stoudamire's health is a concern for me. And although we replace Brooks's offense with Barbosa, it would still leave us without a playmaking perimeter player, a problem that plagued us last season. Still, it's a trade that's worth doing.

A swap of McGrady and Carter is a very close second, IMO.

 

I agree that it's a great trade for the Rockets. Not sure about the Bulls. They are already undersized with BG at the two now you have a 5-11 combo guard coming off your bench? Nevertheless, DM should dangle this in front of JP, maybe he'll bite after AB's playoff performance against the Lakers.

 

Im not a guru, but I couldnt find anything in the FAQ about a SnT restriction in a multiple player trade

http://members.cox.net/lmcoon/salarycap.htm#Q76

thats the direct link to the section about SnT.

or was your question more about the money matching?

 

John Salmons is not a PG but he can handle the ball and pass fairly well. If Deng gets healthy,Salmons can help Gordon,and Rose in the backcourt and Deng at the 3 even if Hinrich leaves. I don't see much room for Aaron Brooks on the Bulls.

 

Nice recap, Clutch!! It really lays out the foundation to work from this summer.

It seems to me that if Les is willing to go over the Luxury tax threshhold he would only want to do it hard for one year, and have the options to decrease it in the second year if it didn't work out.

So far BimaThug's Pacer's deal is the most intriguing, but really carries some salary out beyond two years. Huge Granger/Murphy fan though. I think they would want Scola or Landry instead of Cook since they are all on the same salary plane.

I don't see GS moving Randolph. His game took a huge step from the beginning of the season to the end. That guy has huge potential and he is cheap to keep.

 

Speaking of John Salmons, I think he would be a great pickup. He may be expendable next year with Deng returning and would be a much better option for us at SG than Artest.

I've said it before but I don't want both Artest and Battier back next season. Neither of them can play the role of SG, offensively, and they will both be too well payed to be a backup. Keep Battier and let Artest walk or resign Artest and trade Battier. Let's get us a legit, starting-caliber SG and resign Wafer as a backup. This would give us nice insurance at the 2 spot with McGrady's uncertain status.

 

KEEP TMAC

 

It could have been Landry's agent cashing in contacts but the Pacers were the only other teams besides the Bucks reportedly interested in Landry when he was a free agent.

It took a trade to a team playing a motion offense for Dunleavy to breakout. PG was his natural position so he'd also fill that tall playmaker void that's been brought up recently. He could be an ideal fit under Adelman.

We've had unnamed close sources to McGrady letting the media know McGrady wasn't happy with adelman's system, complaints from McGrady about handling the ball every 5 minutes to a recent radio interview where he gave Adelman a mini snub where he slobbered on about JVG's coaching. Paraphrasing it was, "I love coach Adelman too, but_ JVG is an AMAZING, AMAZING, amazing coach..."

Dunleavy may be less talented than McGrady but he averaged 19.1ppg shooting at FG 47.6% and 3P 42.4%.

The big knock on Dunleavy is if he'll be healthy but then again that's the same knock on McGrady. If Hibbert is part of the parcel I'd get it done quickly.

I think Hibbert as a throw in is the level of bargains they're looking at, not all out steals like trading for Granger.

We might not see another GM do a Gasol deal for a long while with the media jobbing Wallace got for that trade. Teams might try to dump salary but they also need to sell tickets and trading away their young stars won't help sales.

 

Keep Tmac. Sign Raef Lafrentz to a minimum contract. Sign Charlie Villanueve to the MLE. Let Von Wafer walk. Re-sign Artest.

or

if we are going after Hinrich, then we need to get Ty Thomas to go along with him.



Any trade of Aaron Brooks has to yield us a better starting point guard, otherwise it isn't worth it. PG is a position of necessity on this team. We got better with Brooks/Lowry when Rafer left. The position is too important to skimp on. So, if we move Brooks, we gotta get a better PG back. I would hold out for a deal with NO, getting back CP3 along with Chandler and another bad contract like Mo Pete for some combo of McGrady/Brooks/Landry/Cook/etc.

 

Worzel -- Your understanding of the cap is borderline masterful, but for the life of me, I just never seem to like any of your trade proposals. Not that my opinion means anything (hell, I practically endorsed a trade for Zach Randolph earlier in this thread), but I just can't seem to buy this Dunleavy idea you keep trying to sell. You keep dressing it up different ways but it all comes back to a player to a player owed $20M over the next two years that might not even play during 2010.

You can hang the same argument over McGrady's head but he's twice the player and is at least SAYING he plans on being ready for training camp. If it comes down to McGrady vs. Dunleavy, that's good enough for me.

 

I just don't know about giving up our young talent (Brooks, Landry) for guys like Amare and Nash who have hinted they would want to play for D'Antoni in NY. I just don't want to lose our young guys for players who may not want to be here. And then you have Camby whose contract expires in 2010. He could easily leave for more money and then we would have lost whoever we gave up for him for nothing.

 

If we could get Amare Stoudermile and Barbosa by trading T-Mac and Brooks, I would feel quite excited.

 

Amare prefers an up tempo game, but how is that possible when Yao is a starter?

 

Amare >>> Landry
Nash >>> Brooks
Amare + Nash >>>>>> Landry + Brooks

As to personal will, imo, it's not a very important factor as it seems.
A case in point, Ron Artest once wanted to play with Kobe, but right now he feel very comfortable in Rockets. I believe Amare and Nash would finally love this team. The only problem I have is the chance of getting Amare/Nash is very slim.

 

He's just in an up tempo team, not standing for prefering up tempo game.

 

The amare and barbosa trade is more like it. He'll be a rental player for 1 yr if he decided to walk out on us in 2010 to play in NY with his coach d'antoni. That still leave us in the hunt for the 2010 players sweep stakes. Can you say lebron, dwade, and chris bosh to houston?

 

No, it was mostly about whether a S&T could be part of a bigger deal. Thanks for the reply.

To me, if none of these more popular deals materialize, I'd love to get Sessions + (Jefferson or Redd). I'd be more than willing to use McGrady's expiring for this kind of deal along with Brooks and even Landry if they insist upon it. Redd's contract is intimidating but he is as true of a SG as there is in the league. I suppose his conditioning and durability are question marks but I'd take the risk, esp. if a young talent like Sessions is part of the deal. Jefferson + Sessions would be even better but Jefferson is more of a SF, meaning we'd still have a hole at the 2 spot and once again be stuck with 2 highly paid SFs. Jefferson can play the 2 but he seems best suited for the 3.

I was also wondering if people like this idea and whether they think both the Rockets and Bucks would be interested.

 

I'm getting excited. I remember how happy I was when we landed Artest. I think Morey will get something significant done again.

With news of TMac working hard, it seems like we have a win-win situation on our hands.

 

I'd love to get Amare and Barbosa.... but are we really ready to give up Brooks... Lowry has played well, but I cant see moving Brooks without an upgrade at that PG. PG has been our achillies for decades now and I dont see dishing our best potential option to upgrade the front court. I feel more confident wth Scola, Landry and Hayes - than starting Lowry at point.
I think we move Tmacs expiring contract for a longer but not totally outrageous contract (like Ellis).
Also, if we move a couple cheap front court contract (Scola, Landry, Hayes) to get a bluechip PF - cool.
Bottomline is position for position (with backups to offset contracts). The only exception being if we have a 2 trades working that offset... (ie Tmac/Landry and AB for Amare and Barbosa.... and then Scola and backups for a strong pointguard.... only prob there, yer pretty much blowing up the whole team)

 

I'd LOVE to pull off this deal!!!