[ClutchFans] This is everything I've heard on trades...

All of you, look at this!!!

AMARE WILL BE THE NEXT CHRIS WEBBER UNDER STOUDAMIRE

 

Yes Bosh is left handed and it makes him a harder gaurd but i think Bosh is injured at this point, no?

 

OK, interesting, sounds like he might just get his wish!

 

any way we can get j-rich with stoudemire?

 

"Shown up" is a great way to put it, as fragile as T-Mac's ego is I could definitely see that happening...

 

Microfracture surgery is not a permanent fix. Amare will have to have the procedure again sometime down the line and he won't be 23 when he has it.

 

Alternatively trading:

Cater + Najera + Williams + Ager for McGrady + Hayes

Also gets the Rockets back under luxury tax.

-Najera has become long term bad signing

-Williams an untradeable cancer after being "sent home" from a NBDL team

-Ager is a third option guard with an expiring contract and on his way out of the NBA.

 

Yes he is, and that's going to make landing Bosh in Houston even harder IMO.

 

I think we'll see Morey on the better end of the deal as he usually is.

 

Don't want Ager, don't want Najera, don't want Williams.

Too Dleague, too old, too Stromile.

Bad deal.

 

Thanks for the update, Clutch.

Regarding Amare i'm going to have to say: pass. We're giving up too much. I would maybe consider this if the offer was reduced to Artest/Landry/Head -- it's hard to decline that. I'm just skeptical how he would fit with Yao. I really think Amare is a guy more concerned with getting his touches and being 'the man' than he is with sacrificing and playing winning team basketball. I've seen him play numerous times this year and he was simply befuddled when playing on the same unit as Shaq. Sure, the moment Shaq goes to the bench Amare becomes the best player on the floor. I just have problems seeing how the situation would be any different with Yao.

Plus, a deal like this kills our depth and off-balances the team. Taking T-Mac out of the equation our eight man rotation looks something like: Rafer/Wafer/Battier/Amare/Yao with Scola/Barry/_____. I'm sorry but that's a weak eight man rotation -- way too top heavy and not enough depth or experience in the backcourt. Half of those guys are injury prone too.

I just can't see it working. Upgrading the point or the Vince Carter/Mike Miller scenarios are much more logical than playing mad scientist with a guy like Amare. That rogue "Who cares if he doesn't fit? We'll make it work!" attitude was the reasoning behind dealing for Artest in the first place. Look where that has gotten us.

 

Brooks, Landry, Artest, Head plus picks for Amare will cut the perimeter depth real bad.

PG: Alston/Barry
SG: McGrady/Wafer
SF: Battier/
PF: Stoudemire/Scola/Hayes
C: Yao/Stoudemire/Mutombo

I'm not comfortable with Barry as the backup PG. Wafer would become a real rotation player, but how would he respond? There are too many players in that rotation that would be playing two positions.

 

Even though things don't seem as great as we had hoped, I would say getting Artest for Bobby Jackson and a 1st round pick is a the deal that worked out in our favor.

 

doesnt landry have a trade clause in his contract? can some one fill me in on the specifics.

 

Bringing in Amare would give us a player that actually WANTS the ball in the clutch. But I agree with your assessment about the depth. Unless Amare or Yao agree to come off the bench, the rotation is a mess. Fragile players like Barry and McGrady will have to play regular minutes, plus Battier is hurt this season. I would be very concerned with the durability of the team

Yao/Amare
Scola/Hayes
Battier/McGrady
McGrady/Wafer
Alston/Barry

 

thanks clutch

 

Any deal for Stoudemire is pretty much dead in the water since Porter is rumored to be fired tomorrow. As enticing as it is to have our first All-Star power forward since Barkley, we'll just have to move on and hope that Morey and Co. are looking at other (possibly better) alternatives.

 

I would consider this if brooks was not involved, I think that would be too much and leave us too depleted at pg. I dont necessarily mind giving up Landry because Scola could be the sub for both Yao and Amare since Amare can play center as well. If we still have brooks and wafer/Battier, I think that would be enough off the bench.

 

If Rockets trades for Stoudemire, then that means they give up on Yao. There is no other way around it. These two can not co-exist. Period.

- Yao will take up the space in the middle, and Stoudemire will not like that.
- Yao will be the primary offsensive weapon, again, Stoudemire will not like that.
- Stoudemire is known to be lazy on the defensive end, which puts more pressure on Yao. Yao won't like that.
- Coming 2010, who do you give the max contract? Yao or Stoudemire?
- PF is one of the strength of the Rockets, trading for Stoudemire will sure improve PF even more, but at the expense of weakening SF, PG positions.

 

But they are not much younger than Stoudemire.