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[ClutchFans] This is everything I've heard on trades...

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Clutch, Feb 15, 2009.

  1. jump shooter

    jump shooter Member

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    Isn't sad that we have to make predictions that T-Mac will be motivated next season.
     
  2. Wooderson

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    I'm in no rush to trade McGrady. I'd be fine with resting him for a while longer, even if it means we don't have him until right before the playoffs.

    His value next year will be phenomenal (even moreso if he bounces back). Getting rid of him now just doesn't make sense to me.
     
  3. t_mac1

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    as bad as tracy is, no team right now wants shane battier unless that team already is STACKED with talent and will use him off the bench (ala boston or lakers). those teams need that hustle guy to come in and hustle for 10-15 minutes.

    when we're "that good," maybe battier will have that role on our team.
     
  4. t_mac1

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    it's not a predication. his contract year status prompts any player to be extra motivated. ask any professional athlete.
     
  5. t_mac1

    t_mac1 Member

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    you have the cash and a history of 2 championships, i'm sure someone will come. and morey's a good talker. i don't know if we get a superstar in 2010, but we will get one. we always do, since les has been the owner.
     
  6. rockbox

    rockbox Around before clutchcity.com

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    The only way we could absorb Brad Millers, Salmon's, and Udrih's salary is to trade Tracy. Those guys make 22 million. The only other way to make it happen is if we trade Artest and Battier with fillers.
     
  7. badgerfan

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    From what I understand the Kings can't take back Artest, so any deal involving him would also have to involve a third team.

    The Rockets are up against two limiting factors. One, they're at a 14 man roster so you'd think they either get back more guys than they trade out or at the very least get back the same number. Salmons and Miller, who are the targets of numerous trade rumors, have a combined salary of $16,000,000. Outside of Yao and Trace nobody on the Rockets makes that much. Battier's at $6.5 million, Rafer's around $4 million and Luis is around $3 million. You add them up and the numbers still don't add up and the Rockets are now playing with a 13 man roster.
     
  8. GATER

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    For starters, you'd have to give +/-25% of Miller's (assuming Brad) $11.4m, Salmon's $5.1m and Udrih's $5.5m.

    Low side first 2 = $16.5 *.75 = $12.4m
    Low side all 3 = $ $21.6 * .75 = $16.2m

    But the first hurdle is SAC taking back Artest. The second hurdle is Landry can't yet be traded w/o his consent. Without Artest ($8.4m) and Landry ($3m), the Rox don't have many contracts to get to there $wise.

    Battier = $6.4m
    Alston = $4.9m
    Head = $1.9m
    TOT = ~ $13.2m
     
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  9. badgerfan

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    Yao's going to get max money so the Rockets have to concern themselves with that first off. A good chunk of Tracy's expiring contract is going to go to that. Houston's also going to be competing with everybody and their dog.
     
  10. Sooner423

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    Yeah, T-Mac is the only thing that makes sense there.
     
  11. studogg

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    Can they even take Artest back. It was my understanding that this was not allowed under the CBA (during the same season).
     
  12. RocketKobe24

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    Rockets just need to make a mini trade, I insist we trade Shane Battier for an above average defender and an above average offensive player.
     
  13. t_mac1

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    are you comfortable giving a 30 year old center who's 7'6 max money? i'm sure even if he doesn't play he still makes les money, but team-success wise?
     
  14. badgerfan

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    It doesn't matter what the Rockets want. Somebody, somewhere is going to offer Yao max money and the Rockets are going to have to match that if they want to keep him.
     
  15. badgerfan

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    He's being disallowed on ESPN's trade machine. He's the next highest paid guy on the team after Tracy and Yao so that handicaps the Rockets even more.
     
  16. t_mac1

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    i don't think any elite team would give yao max money at age 30 (lakers, boston, spurs...). a team like the knicks would if they fail at the other superstars b/c yao is a big name/draw and that would sell out their games.

    if it's a max contract, better be a 3 year at most (a real short one)
     
  17. BimaThug

    BimaThug Resident Capologist
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    Yao currently makes the max, albeit on a contract that starting paying him the max based on fewer years of service in the league. When he signs his max extension in 2010, he'll get a pay increase, but not a drastic one over his current salary.
     
  18. astros148

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    itd be badass if we traded tmac + artest + scola + brooks + head and we got back amare, miller, beno guy from sac and balbosa in a 3 team trade.


    just dreaming tho.

    rafer
    balbosa
    wafer
    amare
    yao

    with barry, beno, brad miller, landry
     
  19. worzel gummidge

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    Big men are meant to hit their prime in their 30's, or so the mantra has been by the Rockets. On the other hand statiscally it's shown that the majority of wings hit rapid decline when they turn the big three O.
     
  20. BimaThug

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    Given the global phenomenon that is "Yao Ming," and given his commercial appeal in China and the myriad endorsement deals and tie-ins that Yao's franchise could have (and currently does have) with Chinese businesses, most NBA owners would GLADLY throw max dollars at Yao. The sheer excess revenue generation that would be associated with having Yao Ming on a given team would more than offset his salary.

    This was true when Jordan came back in the mid-90s and was getting $30-35M per season from Reinsdorf and the Bulls. It didn't matter that it was twice what any other player was getting. He was simply worth it from a revenue generating standpoint.
     

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