[ClutchFans] The numbers are clear: Patrick Beverley deserves to start over Jeremy Lin

Your 2nd point partially explained why the current starting lineup has negative net rating in 4th quarters. Another possible reason is that it lacks playmaking. So when the defense tightened up in 4th quarters, there were less options and thus less success.

 

I guess you didn't read my last post. If Clutch's numbers are correct, we are actually slightly worse off having Lin off bench.

If you watched the games, JH played a lot of minutes with Lin anyway whether Lin starts or backups. Plus Lin didn't get more time with the ball off bench because he was used as more like backup SG instead PG.

 

As for if they should try PB as a starter, sure and I do see valid points with PB staring, at least in theory. However, if I were the coach, I would have started Lin at the beginning of the season simply because last season Lin as a starter had prove as a solid starter. In fact in 2nd half last season (Lin was healthy, averaging 17 and 8 if my memory is right. If that is not numbers for a solid starter I don't know what is), we won about the same rate as this season, even without DH. It is called "if it aren't broken, don't fix it". So I would have started Lin initially to see how DH'd work with last season's starters. If you really want to try PB as a starter, you can always try in the middle of a season as it is a long season and injuries are expected.

I guess McHale will have to stick with PB as a starter the rest of this season barring injury (partially explain why he couldn't wait to start PB off injury). Clearly, both PB and Lin are struggling with their current roles right now. For the sake of our success, we can only pray both can improve in their current roles. Otherwise, we will be in deep trouble. Take a look of the current standing. The west is ultra-competitive this season. A losing streaking or two. We may find ourselves out of playoff.

 

Do people seriously believe that Lin and Harden cannot exist? You really have to blame coaching for not figuring out. There are a couple games this season where both of them played really well together and Lin put down decent defense on the opposing PG. People bringing up defense is seriously a joke, because every PG who gets picks set for him and go off on any other PG. Its called team defense.

 

As for your question, the answer should be no. Last season there were many cases both Lin and Harden played well together and we won especially in the 2nd of last season. I was hoping this season we can see two-headed monsters (three heads if you count DH) take turns attacking and play making. Well I guess that is out of window now. Not only PB and Lin are struggling to find their new roles. JH is also struggling in a big way. I guess playing two roles as play-maker and scorer is simply too much for James.

 

Not angry at all. I'm just being honest. You don't see me making a case for Bev or Brooks as a legit starter either. None of them are. 3 backup Pgs like I said. Disagree on Milwaukee also. No way he starts over Brandon Knight

 

Last season Harden and Lin tandem were a top 5 back court. But ole Mchale must have seen something different. Like Hoopfan stated, "if it ain't broke why fix it". Like I said early in the season Mchale should have started Lin.
But hey we are 5th in seeding and have a better record than last season.

 

Good breakdown. I think a big part of the reason he hasn't developed is because of how long he's been a pro. A big part of his "upside" used to be that he was a gym rat. Now, his work ethic is highly questionable as he enjoys living the celebrity nightlife apparently. He's just not a good player. Thankfully Morey was never able to land him

 

Apparently you are under the impression that I sit on the internet all day. I respond when I get a chance dude. I'm not on your time schedule

 

Nobody here wants Rubio.

 

If you could turn back time and look at Lin was doing in the 2nd half last season, you'd have changed your mind. If my memory is right, Lin averaged 17 and 8 after all stars while we were winning about the same % as this season, even without DH. Unfortunately things changed quickly due to certain decision by the coaching staff

 

It's frustrating for me to see this team because we are playing at best, 50% of our potential. Why?

1) DH's integration has not been smooth. Our offense was better last season than this season. If you swap out DH for "stone-hand" Asik, I would've expected our offense to be even better.

2) Our system is too reliant on our Big Three, particularly Harden. If Harden has a bad game, we tend to lose (someone stat check me on this). Howard can erupt offensively but is not consistent. Parsons is consistent and efficient, but can't replace Harden's scoring output. Lin, Bev, bench are all too offensively inconsistent.

3) Our offense just isn't as pretty as last year. I know this isn't quantifiable, but last year it looked like we were having fun. This year not so much.

4) Players don't seem bought in to the system. Harden deviates by ISOing. Asik just doesn't play. Lin is passive and probably sulking. Hell, Parsons is the only one that's playing nicely in the system and that's probably why McHale loves him. Either way, this is a "leader of men" issue.

5) Morey treats players like assets, but chemistry is not built on assets. You can't have trade rumors all over the place and expect players to perform. Even all-stars like Gasol etc. performed significantly worse under trade rumors.

I think this season is a throw away season. Morey's just using the season to test out pieces and gear up for the trade deadline/summer. Bev to replace Lin then you get a 3rd star.

 

Our offense was not better last season. 107.1 rating this year 106.7 last year. Do you think Morey makes moves just to make moves? he will continue to make moves until he thinks he has a championship roster, and I love that our GM will not stop until that happens. For someone whos name is stats, you sure don't give many. Players don't seem bought into the system? How can you say that, because of your questionable eye test? Knee-jerking is knee-jerking.

 

You don't even need to look at this season - there are plenty of games where Lin and harden play really well together, but this happened in the context of team ball where the ball was being shared. This year Dwight Harden and Parsons get the most touches, and the ball stops sometimes at Dwight in the post - which is not a bad thing when Dwight gets going, but he needs to kick it out sooner.

 

No matter how haters points out how bad Jeremy is, this team's success depends on Jeremy a lot! This team needs ball movement and assists which was missing from last season. After Jeremy got demoted, the offense basically one on one. You see Harden's iso->Parsons iso->Howard iso one by another.

Harden is the best offensive player in this team. But whenever he's focus on playmaking, that pretty much stopped his offense and wasted his talents. This team works its best when Lin creating open shots for everyone especially for Harden.

 

Haters? Seriously, how old are you, kid?

There are no haters. Most of us are Houston Rockets fans that want what is best for the team. And we will not hate someone who is part of the Rockets. We want what is best for the Rockets and if that is Lin off the bench, so be it.

Quit with the juvenile name calling.

 

You're wasting your time. He is the equivalent of a groupie. Lin probably has a restraining order against him

 

This is to answer for those of you think Lin is not a solid starter and we have three backup PGs :grin: If you think averaging 17 and 8 while the team won almost 2/3 of it games (even without DH) doesn't prove Lin as a solid starter then I don't think you're reasonal.

Of course, I'd prefer to having all stars at every positition. But that only happens in fantasy league. We're talking about reality here.

 

I totally agree with your Point 5. It may partially explain why Lin is struggling. He is a human being after all.

 

To me, Lin started or not doesn't matter. But Lin clearly not handling the ball when he came off the bench. That's destroy the main purpose of Lin off the the bench.