[ClutchFans] The numbers are clear: Patrick Beverley deserves to start over Jeremy Lin

Yeah, even my 7-YO son starts to use "they're" "you're" instead of their and your. SMH. I whip him a good one every time I see that... :grin:

 

Exactly, that's why coach McHale said Bev plays with no agenda. He is implying that Lin thinks too much when he plays. Whether it is turn overs, chemistry, afraid to make mistakes....etc. Bev just pure hustles, he is playing with a lot of passion right now and it impacts other players around him

 

Why do so many of you think the "no agenda" comment was a shot at Jeremy? When I think of someone playing with an agenda, I think of someone more concerned with getting his than doing what is best for the team overall. I think there are some guys on the roster who occasionally fall into that, but Lin is not one of them.

 

It isn't even a matter of Beverly having that "x-factor", he just has that "x-factor" for THIS team. The Rockets can score in their starting line up, they have dynamic offensive players so Lin's strength (offense) is not as important as the defense and energy Beverly brings.

On a team like Memphis, Lin may have the "x-factor" where his offense is more of a necessity.

 

Lin is the better player but his strengths are redundant with the team's strengths. Beverley's strengths plug right into the team's weaknesses - - a perfect fit.

 

There were lots of Rockets fans before Lin and there will be after Lin.... in the grand scheme of it all, Lin really isn't that big of a deal.... the team and fanbase survived and has grown after losing; Elvin Hayes, Ralph Sampson, Hakeem Olajuwon, Rudy T, the scandal with Calvin Murphy, the drug issues of John Lucas and Mitchell Wiggins and Lew Lloyd, the decline of Yao Ming and Tracy McGrady...... if you really think that losing Lin is going to really hurt the fanbase, then you do not know Rocket history.

 

LOL bro get off your high horse. Lin is a fly on the wall of Rockets history. Not only will we survive, but we'll continue to thrive

 

don't forget charles barkley and clyde drexler

 

Lol you are good pimp no need to correct yourself

 

This....

Look, I don't think it was a shot at Lin at all. However, look at our starting line up.... Harden wants to be the best SG in the NBA, he is concerned with his personal accomplishments (not necessarily a knock); Howard wants his post ups and wants to prove he is the best center, that he is legitimate offensive force; Parsons is very ambitious, he is trying to prove himself as an all star level player; TJones is trying to solidify the long term PF position and put up numbers......... Beverly, he just shows up and plays hard... he doesn't dwell on whether he had 5 points or 25 points.... he knows his role, and is happy with it... he knows what he is and is not, there is no selfishness where he needs 10-15 shots a night.

Now, I don't blame Harden or any of the other Rocket players for their ambitions and trying to be more than they are.... but a guy that is comfortable in his own skin, and is happy scrapping and defending, and passing and competing is really important and refreshing, especially on a young team.

Beverly reminds me of guys like Alan Level and Nate McMillan and Michael Cooper. They never were stars, but they played a long time and helped their teams win, they let the stars play like stars and did the little things.

McHale knows about the importance of players like that... he had a number of them on the Celtics.

 

Umm... us Rockets fans were fine before the world even heard of Jeremy Lin. I am pretty sure we will be fine when all his lunatic fans leave, when they do. I am also pretty sure this place will be MUCH better once they all migrate if Lin does leave.

 

I'd say Lin is the better player and in a perfect world, would/should start, but since this is Mchale's team and revolves around Harden playing PG, yeah Lin should play off the bench, cause in the starting lineup he's 3rd-4th option.
He'll never see Linsanity numbers (at least not in Hou) cause:
1) his usage rate is 8-11% lower than NY (even more so in the last 5 games)
2) he won't avg 16 FGA per game (on this team)
3) his mins are lower (37+ mins for March 2012)

this is just math...

If you gave him these same opportunities he'd probably do it again, his game is the same if not better than what he was in NY.

Harden and Lin have redundant skill sets...but they don't split FGAs... Harden is the better player so he'll always take most/all of the shots... Lin doesn't make sense on this team... Yes he should play every single min Harden is resting but then the 4qtr looks strange cause then they're both in playing w/ each other... Lin efficiency/usefulness plummets... (cause he's mostly out of rhythm chilling in the corner) ... the easy solution is oh bench him, Play Bev+Harden in the 4th... then you say oh that's a waste of 8.3 Million off the cap...he can't win here. Either change the coach or trade him or the endless debating will live on...

 

so not trading for harden would have been perfect for you?

 

Or how about we see if we can make it work with him, and see if we can be successful that way. If the team wins and Lin is still a major contributor, be it as a starter or off the bench, what is there for Rockets fans to debate on this?

 

I agree with this. As long as Lin is helping the Rockets win, I can even tolerate his fans' antics. It is ALL ABOUT THE TEAM.

 

There may be other reasons to replace McHale in the off season but this is DEFINITELY NOT one of them.

Rockets as a whole have shown to be a better team with Lin coming off the bench and Bev starting. Bev seems to infuse that energy, hustle and willingness to fight which is sometimes missing in superstar players who can get lethargic or lackadaisical at times since the game comes so easy for them. I mean when you see someone like Bev fighting through every screen and fighting on every possession, it definitely rubs off on the rest.

Lin can still be a major contributor off the bench. He will get 30 minutes off the bench which is still a good amount of time for Lin to have his own stamp on the game. Overall Lin off then bench makes both the starting unit and the bench better.

 

awesome blanket statement. guess you got it all figured out.

well, i am a lin fan from california and i can watch the games thanks to league pass.

 

Well, why don't you explain why you're a Lin fan then?

 

But the percentage of ACTUAL Rockets fans will be 100% again.

 

What do you think Mchales trade value is? what if we traded both Lin and Mchale :grin: That would be hilarious