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[ClutchFans] The numbers are clear: Patrick Beverley deserves to start over Jeremy Lin

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Clutch, Jan 21, 2014.

  1. Codman

    Codman Member

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    Defensively, Patrick is better than Lin. No question. Not even close.

    Offensively, although I have not looked at the exact percentage, I'd take my chances on Patrick shooting the ball than Jeremy. It's not just from one game either. It's been before the injury.

    Jeremy may be better in some categories, but overall, my opinion (Yes, this is an opinion) is that Beverly is the superior player overall.

    Like I wrote though, there is no question about who is the better defender.
     
  2. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

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    As a 2002 member you should be ashamed of yourself.

    Welcome to my ignore folder.
     
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  3. rocketjunkie

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    Too many assumptions. He has off court value clearly but exactly how much is unknown. Also there may be owners who want him but don't have the assets that Morey is willing to take back. Or les may only want to pull the trigger if he gets a near superstar back. Or the other owner has luxury tax issues. There are a lot of reasons he may not be traded at this time. For example, Bill Simmons rumor had the rockets looking to trade him bc they thought they needed to clear space for Chris Paul. I'd do that in a heartbeat. But it doesn't mean I'm trading him for Brandon Jennings and other crap point guards or even good players with lengthy contracts. Lin brings real value. also his contract expires in 2015 - time to make a run at some high priced free agents. I don't see the need to trade him - his is a good starter if Beverley (or harden) gets hurt and is great at being 6th man. He can get you 20-30 points frequently and is one of the best at driving to the lane. That instant offense is great, and if Beverley is doing poorly we can play. Lin more and vice versa.
     
  4. Flippin

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    He/she is here to troll only. There's no need to reason with it.
     
  5. bilaal14

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    Lol, Lin will be traded soon, this will all be over.
    PAT BEV.... "mama there goes that man"

    lol. I love his style of play and his nastiness. He def makes this team better in many many ways.
     
  6. langal

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    i thought that Lin had a chance to take the starter's job during Bev's injury. He played really well in some games but not consistently so. AB looked better in stretches (which isn't as bad as it sounds since I think AB is a very capable player). Lin should not start. It remains to be seen if he should be in the team's long term plans. Could very well be worth an MLE after this contract. Morey drank his own poison pill.

    Hopefully, Bev's injuries are behind him this year and he can develop some offensive consistency.
     
  7. apcgamb24

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    Lol Lin also outplayed Bev 3/4 of the games in the beginning of the season
     
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  8. langal

    langal Member

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    Sarcasm meter? Not sure..
     
  9. Codman

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    I thought he was being sarcastic. Now, I'm not so sure.

    Nobody hates Jeremy Lin. People just want the best player at each position to start. The LOFs don't understand that because they've been brainwashed to think that one player is more important than a team.

    The Rockets could be 1-40 with Jeremy averaging 22 and the LOFs would be satisfied. It's pretty disgusting.

    The majority of us want the ROCKETS to do well, with or without Jeremy, or any other player.
     
  10. Gimmmethemike

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    What a dumb ass...
     
  11. eric.81

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    I think like a lot of people in the real world, my work responsibilities change frequently (sometimes hourly) and are always dependent on the needs of my (very demanding) client. That is my job, to satisfy my client. I think anyone that isn't working an extraordinarily basic job (toll booth worker?) would agree.

    Does it affect my performance? Well, I'd have to let my employer answer that, but I've been given steady performance-based pay raises since I joined this firm. Strong evidence suggests that my client and my bosses are all satisfied.

    The point is, that's absolutely not an excuse in the adult world. Put up, shut up, or GTFO. My client, nor anyone that signs my paycheck, is worried about my psyche... they're worried about results.
     
  12. Flippin

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    Are you a LOF? If not, you should find the comment below ridiculous and trollish.

    "Bev only has one good game and he's a certainty for starter?

    Some people need to get their perspectives right!"
     
  13. Caprikova

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    It's self-righteous members like you, who are so persistent with polluting this environment with constant witch hunts for anyone who offers a different opinion than yours that make this forum so unbearable to peruse at times. If you're going to criticize, at least respond with something that is more constructive than ad hominem.
     
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  14. Flippin

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    You're comment is beyond ridiculous to respond. I leave that to the mod to get rid of.
     
  15. FTW Rockets FTW

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    Keep saying that. Bev is a far superior defender to Lin. Lin may be a better offensive player but Bev's defense far outweighs Lin's offense.

    So overall, Bev is the better player for this team.
     
  16. Play07

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    Dude I said in my post it wasn't Lin bs bev hell I have clutch props on the post I was saying PLAYOFFS we will be able to tell if we need to make adjustments, not saying Lin would be better I was saying a PG in general. I spoke on spurs game because bev had a good one last night just saying everyone was hype on Xmas also. We lost against bad teams also.

    I'm concerned about playoffs
     
  17. langal

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    I think this board has made it feel like there is some sort of conflict between Lin and the staff. For argument's sake, let's assume that Bev and Lin are comparable players (which I feel that they are) - then choosing one as the starter over the other should not be a big deal.

    And they should all have short leashes (Bev too). If he is stinking it up, then put Lin in for him. If Lin stinks it up, AB is more than capable of manning the point. None of these guys are exactly all-star calibur and deserve the benefit of the doubt.
     
  18. Aleron

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    Wasn't it obvious? We were going to tank and he was going to be our tank commander. What else was there to do when no free agent (see Dwight) wanted anything to do with our team.
     
  19. Flippin

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    They are not comparable. Your premise is wrong which affects your entire argument.
     
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  20. Texanasiafan

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    I don't come here too often and be frankly speaking, I don't hate Lin at all.

    When he made a good play, I scream for him also.

    But I can share with you the experience of what is happening in other places that how people are looking at Lin.

    You can go to some of the biggest hoop web sites in China and the situation won't be much different than here.

    There are LOF and LOH everywhere. But to be more specific, most of the LOH are actually LOFH.

    It is what it is about Lin, he is a serviceable and decent player when he is playing at a stable level, but the issue is : at least from the past record as a Rocket player, he is anything but steady and stable.

    You know what are those far east LOFs wanted the most for Lin nowadays?

    The All star? nah.

    Get back to the starting 5? nah.

    McHale/Sampson fired? nah.

    They want a trade, they want Lin to leave the Rockets.

    But the sad part is this : majority of the LOFs there only want Lin to go to a team like the Jazz, the Bucks or the Celtics (via a Rondo trade).

    Because why? They knew Lin can't be as good as the current PG for the contenders, and with Lin going to a bad team, he has all the chances to improve his stats, and that's the only thing that will make LOF happy.

    That's pretty sad.
     
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