[ClutchFans] The numbers are clear: Patrick Beverley deserves to start over Jeremy Lin

Throughout Beverly's absence several people on here were pointing out that this team is lacking an enforcer to play the Vernon Maxwell role on this team. I think Beverly can easily be that guy for us. Trying not to knee jerk from the Portland game but it sure feels good to have him back.

 

I just knew clutch was a LOH..this article proves it

 

are you going to act like you didn't see us play them before when lin was out and Bev was in? That was our second time beating the spurs. you know who saved our ass in that game? You guessed it..

so that's really not a good example to give, unless lin was just outstanding MVP of that game.

 

Troll. Flag and move on.

 

Clutch provided evidence and anyone who has watched/played the game of basketball knows that Patrick Beverly should be starting. In many ways, he is the superior player on both ends of the court.

The turnover argument is a bit subjective. Most of Bev's mistakes come on defense when he is over-aggressive and fouls.

Jeremy CONSTANTLY drives into the lane, gives up his dribble, pivots in the middle of 3 players and gives the ball up. He does it every game without hesitation.

I like Jeremy, too.

He's just not that good. The LOFs REFUSE to accept that Jeremy is not in the same conversation as Westbrook, CP3, DWill, etc.

Heck, I would take a healthy Toney Douglas again. The man produced off of the bench and played defense.

Clutch is right. Jeremy has lost his spot, and he's been given more than enough chances this year. Even with Pat out, Aaron Freakin Brooks outplayed him in most games, in LESS minutes.

Production is everything. Jeremy isn't producing what he should and that contract looks rougher as the weeks go by.

 

WHAT? This is big boy basketball.

If you can't play up to your abilities because your minutes are fluctuating, then you should change professions.

All these folks so breathlessly concerned about how Jeremy's minutes effect his pysche is absolutely unbelievable. He's a multi-millionaire in his mid-twenties that gets to play a game - a game - for a living.

Something tells me his apparently fragile ego will recover.

 

What else are they good at? LOL.

 

There's value in terms of strategic partnerships that would not impact rockets. However I'm not saying that his value is more than a Yao Ming for example. It's just he clearly has more value than just his on court skills.

Of course, I care mostly for his on court skills.

 

Analysis was based on team, not individual. To say he is a superior player on both ends of the court is a BIG stretch. To say he is a better fit with the other starting 4 is not.

 

Please stop living in your dream and welcome to the reality.

Lin's so called off court value to the Rockets are seriously overrated.

Check out the ads of the Rockets put out this season, whether the TV ads or the radio ads, Lin is no longer one of the core players that they are selling in the market.

The core players have any marketing value are Harden, D12 and Parsons.

Yes, when Lin joined last year, the Rockets are getting maybe 3 extra NEW Chinese/Taiwan based local corps as sponsors, this year? NONE.

Check out the Chinese community in Houston, when Yao was here, almost every single Rockets home game, there will be sales promotion or activities going on in the community, nowadays? You can visit some of those community center and ask for tickets to see Lin play and you will probably get an answer of : Lin who?

Overseas broadcasting right is another thing that LOF like to horn about. Oh yeah, Rockets game get way more attention in China that any other NBA team, for that I will give Lin some credits. But saying this portion can generate a good income for the Rockets is just a joke. This kind of income is just so laughable and may not even enough to cover the advertising expenses for a Rockets far east travel.

Think Lin is still very popular now in China? Yes, but to some extend only. Go watch some of those broadcastings of Rockets game in China and listen to the commentators and you will see most people are still rational and speak the truth about what they see.

 

How often do your responsibilities at work change? Does fear of job security affect your performance?

 

What's the w/l between the two? Seems like something that should belong in the comparison

 

Ok.

 

but that's the problem - the argument was never about which pg is more productive in a vacuum and who's a more skilled pg. if its strictly about point, assists, etc, then it's lin, hands down. but it's not about that - it's about who fits better with the existing 4 starters.

i will say though, that quality of opponent should also be taken into consideration when comparing the two sets of starting 5's. each of them have started with the same 4 other players for 14 games or so? maybe that's enough, maybe not. i have no idea - i'm not a stats guy. but if those 14 games are played against different opponents (or same opponents with different players) then it's not really apples to apples comparison. BUT, the numbers are compelling enough to start an argument.

 

Bev only has one good game and he's a certainty for starter?

Some people need to get their perspectives right!

 

Hey wasn't it you who has connection with you know... the team? I saw your posts in Trade Terrence while Jones is high thread.

Does your opinion reflect on the Rocket's opinion regarding Lin?

 

I still do not understand these "short leash, minutes fluctuating, pulled after every mistake" complaints.

A guy can not average 30.7 minutes per game if any of these things were regular occurrences. It's just not possible. It happens a few times and it's over blown into this every game thing. Just not even close to reality.

 

Troll. Flag and move on.

 

will you at least read the article first before posting such laughable comment?

 

To all those here who think oh.... well trade him if he's not wanted here ( and heaven forbid it leaks out that he himself asks for a trade) just keep this in mind.

TRADE VALUE

If Asik (big men come at a premium) has been this difficult to trade on the exact same contract, just imagine how difficult Jeremy Lin (Pg's are in high supply) will be to move if they even tried to move him.

The fact is, Jeremy and his fans better embrace and hope that the 6th man role is where he flourishes and can be in the conversation this year (if he's eligible) for 6MOY and next because if he cannot gain some value across the league, he's going to be stuck with the Rockets until the Summer of 2015, and the Rockets will be stuck with him as well.

Jeremy Lin flourishing as a 6th man is the best case scenario for both Lin and the Rockets. His value will be much higher with a defined role as a 6th man than it would be as a sub-par starting PG.