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[ClutchFans] The numbers are clear: Patrick Beverley deserves to start over Jeremy Lin

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Clutch, Jan 21, 2014.

  1. tinman

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    How are people even arguing this?

    Even last night the TNT guys and reporters were saying how much better the rockets look with beverly back, and the spark that he gives the team over lin. They said that plain and simple. It's not saying lin sucks, or he's bad. its just giving bev his props when they're due.
     
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    your tears taste sweet in my starbucks coffee
     
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    1st this is a great article by clutch it shows the numbers. Its clear bev is the best FIT as of now for the rockets. Bev knows his role when hes in there and he brings something on D that makes other players want to play harder, thats something lin can’t do. But im not going to act like I didn’t see this team play elite with LIN as a starter on X-mas vs the spurs either that had every hyped how we beat the spurs.however when I judge a team its by what happens in the playoffs. yes bev is the best fit over LIn with the starters but is bev or another PG a better fit to take us to the WCF we will see. I’m not worried about a certain player that’s a 4th or 5th option im worried about the rockets getting back far in the playoffs I could care less about the bev vs lin stuff.

    with jones and bev in the starting lineup, parsons as the glue we still have to see what happens when coaches zero in on howard and howard on defsne in a 7 game series. its not just about bev, jones is young also and limited even tho both players have been playing great now. Playoffs will be here soon so we will see what happens.
     
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    if you value defense then yes beverly DESERVES it
     
  7. Texanasiafan

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    Nah,

    you will be surprised to see how many LOF from Asia visiting this site on a regular basis, they are still in sleep right now.

    Wait for another 4-5 hours and you will see some responses.
     
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    Both are overrated, more so Lin imo. But yes Bev DOES deserve to start simply because he just fits well with the starting unit.

    Everyone in the starting unit can score. Bev is sort of offensively limited, but he makes up for it with crazy ass energy and solid perimeter defense. They don't need another scorer in that unit, especially considering our bench sucks donkey nuts. Therefore, Lin comes off the bench to help playmake/create/score for the 2nd unit.

    I know i'm regurgitating the same crap that's been said already, but some LOFS need to wake up and accept this, and I am a Lin fan (not Lin ONLY fan folks).

    I don't think it matters though, I got a feeling Lin is getting traded soon and I think he knows it too.
     
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    Clutch, is there any way you can throw in Aaron Brooks' stats with the starters? Just curious to see how he ranks into this.
     
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    every stat is based from games played
     
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    Excuse me I see someone posted a stats link.
     
  12. tkrieger

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    I have zero problem with Patrick Beverley becoming the starting point guard.... For he has indeed earned the honor....

    The issue with Jeremy Lin is a lot less clear..... He is still a member of the Houston Rockets, and because of that his development as a player should be in the best interest of Rockets fans..... To cut to the chase, I do think there has been an ongoing friction going on between player and coaches that has become detrimental for both the player and team. And I believe could ultimately compromise both the team's quest for a championship and the player's long term confidence. Particularly the lack of trust in the player based on early game performance. The player's focus transforms from instinctive play to subconsciously trying to satisfy the coaches. And since the player wants to help his team win, he must first pass a litmus test in order to even get the opportunity to do so. And if something bad happens, the player feels overly pressured to play "near perfect", just to get back in the coaches' good graces.....

    The sad part, in regard to Jeremy Lin, is that in the past, he has come through with the game on the line.... If the pressure involves whether the team will win or lose, Lin performs just fine. But it's a totally different situation if his time on the floor constantly becomes the issue. Especially if what he's expected to do is limited to a concept that is outside the player's core strengths.

    In regard to how individual players are treated, I don't believe what has been taking place here is normal, given the fact this is a professional sports league. For I think Jeremy Lin has been treated more like an immature junior varsity player than an NBA professional. Every player commits turnovers... Every player has stretches of poor shooting. And every player gets beat on defense. But I know of no other player in the entire league whose playing time is based on every little miscue looked under a microscope.

    And once again, I'm not just saying this because what has been taking place has been detrimental to Jeremy Lin, I'm saying this because what has been taking place has been detrimental to the Houston Rockets. And especially the team's hopes to go deep into the postseason.
     
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    You disgust me.
     
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    I believe I quoted someone that said winning is the ONLY thing that matters.
     
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    Yes, enough was said. What did you say though? :confused:
     
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    There is no doubt that Beverley is the better fit for the starting line up. Considering Mchale's philosophy of a free-flowing, no-point guard system and his tendency to rely on Harden as the main ball-handler, Beverley is the clear starter under the current coach. However, in no way does this mean that Beverley is the better player - simple statistics of the 26 games that Beverley has played versus the 33 games that Lin has played will verify this.

    However, I think this article was absolutely unnecessary and impulsive. Beverley has ONE great game, amid many terrible games since becoming a starter and the main moderator of this site is suddenly so compelled as to write an entire article dedicated to elevating Beverley on a pedestal. Talk about a knee-jerk reaction. Additionally, the statistics shown on the article, although insightful, is also based on a very small sample of 14 and 17 games - albeit it is the only data we have at the moment. How about we wait until Beverley has shown that he can consistently put up this type of performance before he becomes the "deserving" starter. Regardless of whether or not he starts over Lin, Beverley has not cemented his role as THE starter of the team. I generally respect Clutch's insights on the Rockets, but in my opinion, he jumped the gun with this one.
     
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    Can you guys just cut the crap about the treatment. I've never ever seen so much treatment talk about ONE player in my life. Quite whining.
     
  19. Flippin

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    LOF troll. You have been flagged.
     
  20. pippendagimp

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    i feel like the argument between who starts is a moot point altogether because neither player is a starter on a championship team in any case. much ado about nada..
     

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