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[ClutchFans] Rockets will seek Dwight Howard trade... again

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Clutch, May 15, 2012.

  1. dobro1229

    dobro1229 Member

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    So are you insinuating that Rockets weren't in negotiations to aquire Dwight Howard at the trade deadline???

    You might be right that they are floating those rumours to increase fan awareness, but I sincerely doubt they would go that far for such a cause if they didnt have any intention of trying to pursue Howard.

    There were too many people that named Houston as a trade destination (Without an extension) including Jonathan Feigan, Chris Broussard, Chris Mannix, Chris Sheridan, etc. Espn spits crap out the rumour mill worse than TMZ, but in this case it doesn't really benefit their ratings to even mention Houston on the national level as a team in the mix. I dont think the Rockets get named without there being some meat to the story. Thats just my thoughts.

    I dont think the front office is really putting that much effort into Fooling the Rockets fans into believing they are trying to aquire a superstar even if they arent.

    Whether your right or not doesn't really matter based on the premise. If rumours were out there that Houston was a trade target, based on past history Dwight and other Superstars are quick to convey that they have no intention of signing longterm in X or Y city. Howard did no such thing. I just find that interesting that Dwight did none of that.

    Not agreeing or disagreeing with the M.O. you speak of I just find it interesting that Howard went out of his way to keep himself out of a Bulls jersey, but did nothing to prevent a trade to Houston.
     
  2. JoeBarelyCares

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    Not sure why Atlanta is not mentioned more often as a potential suitor. The trade bait would be Horford, plus cap fodder. Dwight would be reunited with his best friend Josh Smith, and get to play in his hometown.
     
  3. ROXTXIA

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    The Magic would likely look to trade with the WC first, but obviously whatever the best deal might be, they won't be picky.

    But here we go again, so desperate for a marquee name that we want to trade for an injured player. Yeah, the team'd be on national TV more, but Howard wouldn't; he'd be sitting on the sideline, thinking, Almost outta here, almost outta here....
     
  4. jopatmc

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    Boom daddy.

    Unless the Lakers offer up Bynum (expiring contract) and Pau or the Clippers offer up Blake and Deandre or Boston offers up Pierce and Rondo and those teams agree to take back Hedo in a salary dump then our offer of young players, talented veterans that can be flipped for draft picks and more cap space and also multiple picks is a very attractive rebuild offer to Orlando.


    One thing I am wondering about though. There is this thought that Orlando could cut out enough salary to offer DWill a max deal. The scenario being they cut Redick (unguaranteed), Jameer opts out, they renounce Anderson, and then they trade Big Baby along with their first rounder and second rounder to a team with cap space and willingness to take on his deal for the draft pick. They would then have to cut Von Wafer, and probably figure out a way to dump one of QRich, Duhon, or JRich for a future pick. This would give them enough room to offer DWill the max.

    I just don't think this is very feasible. However, they could probably do some of the above and create enough space to sign Nash.

    The other factor is if Orlando is going to make a run at someone in free agency, they've got to get the ball rolling before free agency. These moves have to go down during the last week of June or earlier in order to have the cap space to get Dwight to sign an extension if he indeed will extend there to play with Nash or if indeed he does talk to DWill and secure a commitment from DWill to sign a max contract in Orlando.
     
  5. coachbadlee

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    I know that i am going against the grain on this one, but i just feel that chasing after Howard again and failing again will leave us scrambling....again. (Dalembert, Camby)
     
  6. jopatmc

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    We are already scrambling and have been for a long time.
     
  7. t_mac1

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    He doesn't excite me. And he wants to play with another star, a major reason why he wants out of Orlando. Why would he authorize a deal to come here when we don't have a second all-star to pair him up with?
     
  8. coachbadlee

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    Not so much. I am of the crowd(of few:rolleyes:)who would like to address our current problems with this years draft.
     
  9. ROXTXIA

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    DWill is in Russia with Prokhorov right now. He's having so many Russian babes and vodka thrown at him that he won't even remember signing the contract extension.

    But I seriously believe he'll stay in New J---er, Brooklyn.
     
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  10. xiki

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    What he wants is to establish himself as a global brand. Perhaps Yao could 'wine' and dine him to see the possibilities in China thru Rockets' connections there.
     
  11. larsv8

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    Assuming we don't have to take back Turk, we still have our amnesty and with that the flexibility to make cap room.

    This is exactly why we would trade for him without an extension. It opens the door for Deron Williams to sign here as a free agent.
     
  12. HMMMHMM

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    I didn't read all 13 pages of this thread, so this may have been mentioned already, but there's a pretty good chance the Magic will can Otis Smith, which, if you you were to trust Clutch's sources (I'm not questioning the sources, but for all we know this may be another "Look who we almost trade for" PR move) would mean that all the groundwork that may been layed already, would be destroyed.
    Another, new GM for all we know might (want to) go in a completely different direction.

    So, here's hoping to the Magic retaining Otis Smith. :)
     
  13. cooliobob

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    I agree with some of the points that you've made and honestly, those trades are just an idea of what teams could offer for Howard. I just don't see how it's difficult for some people to see that there are plenty of teams capable of offering better packages than the Rockets.

    I think that some teams have a decent core that exists, but hey they lack the overall star power to put them in the conversation with the Thunder and the Heat. The Clippers for instance are one of those teams. IF they would ever consider unloading Griffin, the could potentially net a Howard. Having a Howard-Paul combination is far more lethal than having a Griffin-Paul combination as Howard is able to bring more on the defensive end than Griffin could ever dream of. In this case, I don't feel that a Deron Williams would be necessary as a Howard and Paul combination makes them a formidable title contender. Obviously, some of those trades that I proposed aren't very likely, but I do feel that there are teams that could potentially be in play for Dwight Howard as their circumstances may change heading into the off-season.
     
  14. JoeBarelyCares

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    I was thinking the same thing the other day, with the caveat that perhaps instead of renouncing Anderson (the league's most improved player), they could agree to sign and trade him to a team under the cap if that team also agreed to accept a salary dump as part of the deal.
     
  15. J.R.

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    You are also on of the "few" who thinks we can win 2 rings in the next 5 years. lulz

     
  16. coachbadlee

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    I have been looking for that. Where or what is that thread?
     
  17. leebigez

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    My evidence is the consistent lies that have been thrown out there. Just like the amare trade that was reportly turned down because of a lack of extension by amare. Lie. Before that trade was supposedly turned down,the rockets had already got out the gme. They asked about amare at first, phoenix asked for brooks,landry,bud,mcgrady and a pick and the rockets would've had to take barbosa. Rox balked and made the martin
    trade.Rox came back and tried for amare again. Rox offered battier,scola and filler for amare. Suns came back and wanted brooks,bud,2 1st rd picks along with scol and battier. Morey declined. It had 0 to do with an extension or physical by amare. Now I'm not saying amare is worth it,but they constantly spread false rumors about their deals to get this sympathy from the fanbase. Look at this suposed story. Its leked in mid may vs right after the fact. Why is that? Did clutch just get the memo?
     
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  18. HI Mana

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    That's interesting about the Amare trade, I've never actually heard these specific details reported anywhere else before. The Rockets have seemingly been very good about controlling their "leaked info" pretty much since they got Brandon Roy stolen from them; you must have a truly amazing source that's connected very high up.

    There have always been not so subtle rumors that the Rockets constantly throw out horrible trade proposals to every team, so I can believe that there is a disconnect between what is told to credentialed media such as Clutch and what is reality.
     
  19. Carl Herrera

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    What sympathy from what fanbase?
     
  20. emcitymisfit

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    This was semi-common knowledge. A Chronicle sports writer I knew told me it was Scolandry for Amare straight up, but the physical was the issue. I never thought the Rockets had a problem trading for stars without extensions.
     

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