[ClutchFans] Rockets to begin season with Beverley, Asik as starters; Jeremy Lin off bench

He just does a lot of dumb things. From handling personnel to play calling, he's really holding this team back. We have enough talent but we'll never win the big one with him at the helm.

 

Good job rewriting history on that.

 

I never said he's better than those players. I was putting his start to the season in perspective to other more established players.

And if his PER was below 15, people would be giving him hell for it, so let's give him credit for obviously being a much improved player.

 

You could make a strong case that Teague is better this year, what with all of his assists and all of Lin's turnovers. But you could also make a case that Lin is better: his TS% is over .130 higher and he has a higher WS/48.

 

PER is a garbage stat that favors volume shooters.

 

I would hardly call it "garbage." Nevertheless, of the composite stats, it does seem that WS/48 correlates with the eye test and court outcomes a bit better (at least in my mind). That said, both are both bad at judging defense. For that you really need to look at adjusted plus-minus.

 

Because we were going to sign the tall scrub. The other PGs on the team had guaranteed contracts but so what.

 

That was the correct option given the contract situation at hand.

McHale himself said all the coaches loved Lin and how hard he played.

Everyone knew Flynn was trash, but nobody knew how good Lin could be

 

No, the correct option is to keep the more talented player.

 

PER is not a "garbage stat".

There's no such thing as a "perfect" statistic. Every statistic will have its pros and cons, its flaws and strengths. The most important thing is to understand how it is calculated and to place the results within their proper context.

You don't just throw away a number just because it's flawed. Assists are determined by an official scorekeeper who literally says, "Does this guy get credit for the other guy getting a basket because he passed to him first?" During that one game where Lin had 0 assists, he had a 3-point And-1 pass to Harden and the official scorekeeper gave it to CASSPI.

Do you now say, "Oh Assists are a garbage stat that rewards guys who pass a lot and who official scorekeepers think are awesome"? Talk about throwing the baby out with the bathwater.

PER is not ideal, but it actually is a good place to start when you want to evaluate a player's offensive contribution (in terms of volume production) over a large enough sample size. If you think a player contributes a lot on offense, but that player doesn't have a high PER, then at the very least you know that what you're looking for (in terms of measurable contribution) essentially doesn't show up on the box score. That's not the say that it doesn't exist, but that you need to look elsewhere if you're going to prove your assessment.

 

The Twin Towers Lineup or any other Lineup (even one with chuck hayes at center) can be maximized and made to work if you have a GOOD COACH that explains the proper defensive rotation, how to switch on pick and rolls, how to read the defense, how to play team defense, etc. and on offense a GOOD COACH who likewise implements a good system. Even the 2006 Miami Heat, had two good though aging centers in SHAQ and ZO. it all depends on the coach and how he handles his players both on and off the court.

The only reason Asik was benched was because we weren't winning and it wasn't Asik's fault. Houston has a coaching problem and the sooner they realize this, the better.

 

That's the point, how would you know how good a player was if you didn't even give him a chance?

So why was cutting him the correct move when you could have kept him at a much lower price?

Of course McHale would say that, but only he himself knows whether he really means it or not.

 

which makes it even more impressive then because Lin is not a volume shooter.

 

This topic has been beaten to death, and explained millions of times, but you are free to continue revising history.

Maybe in 10 years time, the story would have been revised so much that Yao Ming was the reason Jeremy Lin was cut initially, and the spirit of Wilt Chamberlain is the reason why Lin came back to Houston.

 

I agree. Popovich's twin tower of Duncan & Splitter play nicely together. Not saying McHale is a bad coach, but his HOF performance as a player hasn't translated 100% into coaching. IMO he accommodates superstars too much. Dwight is a super effective PnR big. Just because he wants to play in the post doesn't mean the coach should let him do so all the time. The same goes for Harden's ISO but that's a discussion for another time.

 

Lin was released in late December by the Rockets to make room for Houston's signing of Samuel Dalembert. Houston already had three point guards on its roster, and all of their contracts were guaranteed. Lin had a non-guaranteed contract.

http://espn.go.com/new-york/nba/sto...regrets-cutting-new-york-knicks-pg-jeremy-lin

 

:grin::grin:

And our smart coach chooses not to start him. Tell me if any of the guys above does not start, who plays more min, and who makes more $.

 

1) When Rockets brought Lin in, they had intentions of keeping him. Evident when the Rockets attempted to trade for Pau Gasol which would have shipped off Goran Dragic, leaving the backup PG spot open to Flynn and Lin.

2) When the trade was veto'd, the Rockets are now placed in a difficult situation. With only 3 big man available (Jordan Hill, Thabeet and Scola) and Patterson injured, the Rockets are shorthanded. Jordan Hill was unreliable, and Thabeet is practically useless. Meaning the Rockets basically had only 1.5 big man on their roster.

3) McHale did not in anyway choose Johnny Flynn over Lin, as you initially implied. He is not a GM, nor did he think Flynn was a better player than Lin.

4) Dalembert "the scrub" is starting for Dallas.

 

Fact remains. They cut him to sign the scrub. Didn't McHale draft Flynn when he was GM?

 

Okay, you can keep revising history.

Might as well say McHale drafted Kwame Brown, Adam Morrison, Michael Olowokandi, Sam Bowie, Greg Oden and Hasheem THabeet as well.