Morey's the same, win or lose. He's always looking to trade, provided he gets the better end of the swap. Don't fall for his public relations claptrap.
Didn't mean I would do it. I was just illustrating how the pick swap could turn into a triple pick swap.
Just heard on 610 that their "sources" tell them the Rox are willing to trade for Melo WITHOUT an extensions....take it for what it's worth.
what people dont understand is that sources is actually a guy. his name is sources. and he just tells the media what he wants and they believe him.
J.Jefferies + Jordan Hill + Battier + 1pick/2picks for Carmelo Is Good. http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine
Jeffries, Battier, one pick. That's all I'd give up without the extension. We keep talking about those picks only as trading chips, but over the next two drafts, I'm pretty sure we'd come up with, say, one player on Hill's level, plus another on PPatt's level. Remember, we got Chase and JT in the 2nd round, Ish was undrafted, AB was a late 1st.
Good article, but honestly Carmelo is just wishful thinking. Rockets would be better off staying away from the Carmelo rental.
They arent getting anything for a Carmelo rental. Nothing. No other team will either as long as its a rental. They get back some cap relief like Battier and some scrubs and pretty much nothing else.
There's no point in trading for Carmelo unless Yao is completely healthy and ready to dominate through a playoff run.
Not true. A team like the Rockets could send them the same assets that they are going to get from the Knicks after the Knicks trade with the Rockets for theri draft pick. The Rockets hold the picks. All they would have to do to rent Melo is send Denver the same value of expiring contracts and a package of talent that Denver feels exceeds NY's package of talent. The Rox would have nothing to lose because they could then flip Melo to Ny for the same package of talent that NY would have sent to Denver anyways, plus the get Melo for a half-seaon, plus they could pick up a huge trade exception by pushing him on to NY after the season.
He wont bring a title if we do rent him, so I see no point other than to sell Jersey's that will be obsolete next year
Nope... The knicks would have to gut their team to make room for Melo. If the CBA changes very little they would still have to dump Randolph, Chandler and few others to sign Melo and even then Melo would lose millions. Melo stands to gain million more in a sign and trade. Melo is too greedy to pass that up. Yes he loves New York and he might consider it if he had too. But if there is any shot that he doesn't then expect him to not sign with NYC straight up. I agree with Jopat's assessment. We don't lose if we trade for Melo. We get assets and picks and cash and a rental with a slim chance of resigning him.
This story appeared today. It references Carmelo and Iguodala. Take it for what it's worth: http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?story_id=18169 NBA AM: Sixers Not Trading Iguodala By: Steve Kyler Cross Iguodala Off The List: A number of NBA teams have made inquiries on the availability of Sixers' guard Andre Iguodala in trade and all of them were turned away according to 76ers sources. The Sixers seem unwilling to entertain trade packages for Iggy according to a source that inquired about him recently, saying the team is exploring other ways to improve. Their stance is Iguodala is still a cornerstone player for the team and not on the market. Having won five of their last 10 games, the Sixers are creeping up from the basement in the East and sniffing at the 8th seed. As Head Coach Doug Collins explains it, their improvements have been tied to Iguodala's buy-in. "I think Andre is just starting to really hit his stride," Collins said to The Philadelphia Inquirer. "I really feel he is incredibly engaged with us right now. I think he feels good about what we are trying to get accomplished and where we are headed." The Sixers have won five of their last seven games against middle tier opponents, but in that span Iguodala has scored an average of 13.4 points per game while grabbing 7.4 rebounds. On the season Iguodala is averaging 14.1 points, 6.7 rebounds and 5.8 assists per game, while shooting 43.7% from the field and 33.3 % from three-point range. Iguodala is slated to earn roughly $14.67 million this season and is owed $14.85 million in 2011-2012, $16.04 million in 2012-2013 and has an Early Termination Option in 2013-2014 worth $17.23 million. Sources close to the situation said the Sixers are more open to adding a player or players to Iguodala rather than trading him. A glance at the Sixers roster shows a team far more likely to package a couple of their younger players for a serious veteran rather than continuing to try and find playing time for a bench full of second- and third-year players. More On Melo: ESPN.com's Chris Sheridan is reporting that Nuggets sources in New York this week confirmed the long running belief that Nuggets' forward Carmelo Anthony has told the team he would not agree to a contract extension with anyone but the New York Knicks. This is not exactly new news, as HOOPSWORLD's Alex Kennedy first reported this stance in August and it's been repeated since August more than a hundred times. However, Carmelo's position on the Knicks is still news, mainly because there was strong belief within the Nuggets organization that uncertainty over the Collective Bargaining Agreement combined with early season struggles with the Miami HEAT were swaying Anthony away from his "Dream Team" scenario in New York. The Nuggets have yet to engage anyone is serious talks about Anthony since the opening of training camp, but it's believed this latest proclamation regarding New York from team sources is basically putting out the open for business sign in Denver. League sources familiar with the situation warned yesterday not to get too caught up in the recent speculation, saying the situation had not changed at all in Denver, and while Carmelo may still want to be in New York, it's still up to the Knicks to construct a trade package meeting the Nuggets needs. As of this week they do not have the assets to make a deal with Denver directly. December 15th marks the first day players signed as free agents this summer can be traded, and its believed the Knicks have been exploring assets that could be available Wednesday as part of an offer for Anthony. The fact Nuggets' vice president Masai Ujiri was on the Nuggets' trip to Madison Square Garden yesterday means a face-to-face meeting with the Knicks likely took place regarding Anthony's availability. How the Knicks handle the next week will be telling in terms of their pursuit of Anthony, but as one league executive astutely pointed out: Why would the Knicks dismantle their entire team to get Anthony now, when he's made it clear he'll walk to them next season? To make a deal for Anthony before the February 24th trade deadline the Knicks would have to give up a lot of assets, waiting until next summer could mean the Knicks have their cake and eat it too. The only virtue in obtaining Anthony now is it insures the Knicks gets him. With labor uncertainty and the possibility of a shrinking salary cap on the horizon the Knicks best bet may be to try and make a deal now, however that means acquiring pieces from others that interest the Nuggets. The Knicks have 73 days until the Trade Deadline, and teams typically open for business on December 15th.
