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[ClutchFans] Podcast: Houston's options heading into the 2021 NBA Draft

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Clutch, Jul 22, 2021.

  1. Clutch

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    For some reason I woke up today thinking the draft was today, and then I was sad.

    But this makes me slightly happier.
     
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    Stopped listening at "the man who would have drafted Harold Miner over Robert Horry"
     
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    Alperen Sengun ftw!
     
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    #5 BamBam, Jul 22, 2021
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    Yeah, that was a big mistake to want the flashy guard over the guy who would revolutionize a Big position ;)
     
  7. ThatBoyNick

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    Moral of the story is to never draft players from USC ;)
     
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    I like the idea of trading Tate for 13 or 14. I think both those teams would move out for a proven player.

    I also then like the idea of trading 24 for a second to stash a G League and getting a protected first next year.
     
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    Thanks guys! Just listened and informative as always. One idea that has been percolating for me is a three way trade with Cle and NYK where the Cavs trade Sexton to New York for Toppin And draft considerations. Cle then routes those picks plus #3 to Houston for #2. Deal only gets done if Cle is hot and heavy for Green and the Rockets are split on Green/Mobley. Seems like a win for all sides though.
     
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    Fleshing the idea out:

    Hou Out: Pick #2
    Hou In: Picks #3, #19, #32 & #58 and 2022 NYK First round pick (probably similar to their current #19)

    Why Houston does it:
    If management is split (or at least close) on Mobley/Green such a deal makes a lot sense to pick up more ammo to try and trade up into the lottery or maybe even make a move for a young vet. I think there are several guys in the second (Grimes and Kessler are 2) that would be great after a year in RGV or as draft and stash types.

    Cle Out: Collin Sexton and Pick #3
    Cle In: Obi Toppin and Pick #2

    Why Cleveland does it:
    I suspect Cleveland really wants Green. I think a starting line up of Garland - Green - Okoro - Nance/Toppin - Allen is a good young core. I think Green fits better between Garland and Okoro than he does here too. If Cleveland is sprung on Mobley maybe they move Toppin here and keep one of those picks from the Knicks in that scenario.

    NYK Out: Picks #19, #32 & #58 and 2022 First round pick
    NYK In: Collin Sexton
    Why NYK does it:
    After last season the Knicks have to be all in on not taking a step back. Sexton - Barrett - Bullock - Randle - Robinson is a solid young starting line up and they could bring Rose, Quickly, Noel, Gibson and the 21st pick off the bench. Sexton is better than anything they might hope to get outside of Damian Lillard for whom they would almost certainly be giving up Barrett and Quickley.
     
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    A very broad discussion of Houston's options at 2, 23 and 24, and possible for trades moving up, moving down, moving around. You guys unpacked a lot! I'm almost dizzy from information overload. Thanks!
     
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    I have to wonder if in 6 years @Clutch will change his podcast opening to......

    "the man who would have drafted Evan Mobley over Jalen Green"

    ;-P
     
  13. don grahamleone

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    When are these two men going to go from the podcast booth to the clutchfans banner?
     
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    And yet you tend to question me on things
     
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    So much content. Thank you, guys.

    If the Rockets don’t trade for the first pick, I’m completely on the fence between Green and Mobley too. Slight edge to Mobley right now. To be honest, I’m not completely sold on CC either.

    So many possibilities at 23/24 and/or moving up/back in the draft. I could be wrong, but I’m highly doubting the Rockets keep all three first round picks.

    Cannot wait to see what happens. Probably the most excited I’ve been about a draft since drafting Yao.
     
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    Green might go first, still so much uncertainty!
     
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    3 first round picks in a loaded draft.
    No more talks.
    No more tricks.
    No more options.
    Just draft.
     
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  18. IvanLCPM

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    Maybe, just maybe @Clutch will have to add “and the man who would’ve drafted Evan Mobley over Jalen Green” to that intro hahaha

    Great work as usual, thanks so much for the time and effort. Love those podcasts!
     

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