What do you all mean by coaching style? They promoted selfish play and favored their stars? I ask because that's what my coach was like. Our team had a lot of talent, but wasn't well coached. I quit the team as a sophmore in part because of that, even though i changed schools, but also to work instead. Definitely regret that as well.
I'm not trying to fan the flame here, but let me give my two cents. First and foremost, the heat and humidity will knock anyone's game down a notch or two. Not sure of the heat index yesterday, but the high was 91 degrees with 94% humidity. Some days it takes a decent amount of motivation just to walk to your mailbox in this kind of weather. Another thing is we're only playing 3 on 3. There's decent enough spacing that you don't have to try all that hard to get open, because no matter where you are, you likely already are. Not to mention there's no 3 point line at this court, so there's more crowding in the paint. More crowding results in less movement. With no threat of a 3 point line, there's also less incentive to chase your man when he's away from the basket, and less reason to run around trying to rub your man off a screen on the perimeter.
In my situation the coach was 100% "my way or the highway". He refused to even slightly conform his archaic playing style to fit the players who were presently on the team, and he attempted to motivate using negativity and fear.
Young teenagers get affected by real world dilemmas in life like parent custody battles, no transportation for extracurricular activities, students having more than 1 interest in mind, confusion about the path their going ... Then all the politics of coaches/parents/student interests, styles of play. Then coaches who want you to prioritize THEIR sport over your other interests. Coaches working towards a big paycheck or bigger job, things kids don't quite see at that age. None of that stuff is FUN. I can definitely understand programs requiring commitment. In school everything is scheduled together so there does have to be some one or the other, and it is a bit of preparation for the real world. I couldnt handle being a coach cuz I know some kids are going through personal tough times through ALL talent and ability levels. A lot is being thrown at kids at that time, and to think your defensive scheme is the most important thing for a kid's priorities is wrong. I can understand now why some people would rather ball at the park than deal with all that junk
Or both? I'm a little of both competitive play and fun. Basketball used to be "all business" on the court for me. But it got dumb just going down the court jacking up shots with no shared success, no camaraderie. And especially having it result in injury, didnt become worth it just to go out and "kill em". Lebron is a professional and should approach his job as a businessman, but even Lebron went to a situation to be with his boys. If the best player in the world wants the benefit of grabbing some beers and talking movies and music after a game with who he plays with, thats good for me.
I think it's important for coaches to first get the team to interact on a social level...i've seen talented teams that dont get very far because guys hate each other, stronger characters intimidate others, and players favor their friends instead of the right player at the time. Then there's other teams with lesser talent who achieve more because they know more about each other than simply who can do what on the basketball court. They don't want to let each other down and play that way. They dont have to be best buds 24/7, but just be comfortable with each other. If there's enough interaction between them, it's hard for them not to be cool with each other eventually,unless someone is just a total prick. It's up to the coach to facilitate that interaction and with time the players will look for it on their own. It also makes losing a lot easier :grin:
Is Tmac_1 really in here to criticize a bunch of people getting together and hooping? Really? Come on man..... DD
I understand how T_mac1 feels cause i feel the same way its kinda why i stopped playing basketball i used to play it and love it in high school cause it was competetive and which made it fun to me. Now when i hoop at the gym sometimes it gets kinda gay cause no one really plays seriously which takes all the fun out of it for me.
But not everyone is there playing for the same reasons there are plenty of competitive games around. The YMCA is a great place to run some full court.... But to complain about a group of Clutchfans getting together and having fun is pretty danged lame. And I look forward to seeing you guys put your videos up for people to critique..... DD
Yea he shouldnt be complainig i dont get that i just understand how he feels, ive gone out there and played with them in the hot hot sun just for kicks and had fun.
Videos look fun, really wish my knee wasn't mush or I'd drive down there and join you guys. Don't let those people talking smack bring you all down.
i dont understand. if some of you guys want to play competitive ball then why dont you start a competitive ball thread? this is obviously a just for fun thing. maybe you can try to form a tournament team in that thread. why bug the ppl in this one?
I'm not complaining. its just constructive criticism. people on this board always take things either as talking smack or hate or whatever. the thread title is PICK-UP basketball, not a get-together at the basketball court. and from the sound of it, a lot of these guys play ball since HS so i'm sure they know what i'm saying. and i'm sure a lot of them are really good. but if you're gonna ball, you should ball. basketball, esp. in that humid weather, can get pretty boring if there is no ounce of competition, pick up or organized or whatever. ultimately, you'll have more fun as you are more into the games. just my 2cent.
I get that t-mac1 is a competitive guy and doesn't see why people out there are not playing as intense as he would, but it's just for fun, there is really no point of saying why play just go eat some wings and watch the game. The people that go there obviously enjoy playing basketball and it's just something different to do than drink beers and be lazy.
I think the reason that we don't play that hard (aside from the weather) is just that most of us aren't really athletes in any way anymore, and busting our asses all out in that kind of weather will wear most of us out inside of 10 minutes. Don't mistake us for uncompetitive, disinterested, or putting little effort into our games: we just play at a level that's most comfortable to us. You wouldn't know it watching me out there, but I really care whether I win or lose. I know I don't want to go out there, give it my all for one game, then have nothing left in the tank for the rest of the afternoon. You're entitled to play ball however you want. Just don't tell us what we should be doing. We enjoy ourselves out there, and if all you've got to say about it is "you're doing it wrong," why bother posting in here in the first place?
You have 16,000 posts on a basketball message board in a little over two years. Are you really going to come on here and criticize how other people spend their time on Saturdays?
