[Clutchfans.net] Grizzlies want(ed) Scola for Miller

Are you kidding ? Scola in place of Turiaf will have LA swept the Jazz.

 

Startover- Say what u want, I was at e forefront of talking about how small, unatheletic this team was when it was struggling. Manjust blew it off s the system will take care of it. When I would always talk about having pj brown on the squad because o his veteran toughness, his 15fter, and his 6'11 frame, all I was told was the 2 rooks and hayes would do great. Guess what? For the 5th season in a row, the rox have the same shortcomings as they had in the 1st yr of the tracy and yao show. Too small, too unatheletic and not enough scoring to compete with the elite. The only problem now is ur best player just made 29 and ur oft injured big guy is going on 29. U have a right to be happy I'm not the gm because I wouldn't have never gave up #8 pick for a player declining since his rookie yr. Nor would I have had wesley/sura backcourt without any young talent behind them. Chuck hayes,alston, and head wouldn't play significant minutes either.

 

say NO if we have to give away scola...

 

Since when hustle and heart was considered a talent? I'm no way a miller fan, but when u compare him to novak, I'm guessing u haven't watched the nba, ever.

 

Err, settle down dude. You sound like you're about to experience a burst vain. I never mentioned heart, I did mention energy but did not say energy or heart = talent. And what is wrong with comparing him to Novak? Novak is a pure shooter and a good talent. The only thing that prevents him from becoming an all round player is his questionable defense. Which in my humble opinion is not hard to pursue.

 

never!!

 

It's ok, leebigez. They are just being silly and using hyperbole to describe Novak.

 

It was a serious question. I see Pietrus' name thrown around here all the time and it makes no sense. I thought you were being sarcastic because Houston's not the most favorable destination. It'd be like a Chicago fan saying "We'd be lucky to sign Luther Head for the MLE."

Pietrus wanted a contract last year and there were no takers. He's Stromile Swift with a 3-point shot. Golden State does not want him back. You want to bring him for 3 million and you've got him. Any team that blows the MLE on him has a dumb or desperate GM. Morey maybe?

 

I wouldn't mind a deal with Landry involved for Miller. That way Landry wouldn't take up our MLE space and we can actually acquire Miller. But only if Landry does not agree under all circumstances the LLE deal. Then obviously it'd be best if we do a sign and trade involving Landry if Landry wants too much.

Memphis' own fault they didn't get any decent guys for LA.

Miller for Scola? Hell NO!! We've only JUST filled our PF position and now to trade him away for a back-up SG? I don't care how high scoring he is but NO SCOLA FOR MILLER!

What do you guys reckon the option of a sign and trade involving Landry for Miller sound? Or shall we keep our PERFECT one-two punch at PF that we've only just uncovered. They are only rookies remember and have a lot of room to improve.

 

to have miller will be a huge boost, but to give up scola for that... the math isn't in our favor.

 

Memphis must be thinking that the Rockets GM are idiots from we handed the top player of the whole draft Rudy Gay on a plate to them, WHEN RUDY FITTED US PERFECTLY.

Memphis thought mmm...maybe we gonna throw out another stupid deal and see if they bite the hook.

I'm still fuming over the Gay/Battier trade, so if this trade went through I'd be.......exploded with anger.

F off Memphis

 

I don't really know how much a 28 yr old rookie will improve, but if yall say so.

 

certainly by much more than Miller, especially Landry.

and scola was only in his 1st season in the NBA trying to learn a new style of play to what he had done for the previous 10 years of his career. Kind of like adapting for NCAA to the NBA.

 

Scola was 14 and 9 against Boozer in the playoffs, the guy is only going to improve as he gets more used to the NBA and Yao gets back.

Miller would be nice, but why create ANOTHER hole by trading for him.

Landry for him might be interesting, but it would be better to trade them back Battier......etc...that way you get a better all around player at the SG/SF spot and you are still just a PG away, instead of 2 spots below par.

And Hustle and Heart are absolutley a skill.

DD

 

Awesome DD. The voice of reason on occasion.
Edit: We would still need to add another defender if Battier is traded for Mike Miller but I like this post a lot.

 

I don't advocate trading him for Miller, but 14 and 9 was in 36-37 minutes a game - it's not that impressive and represented a slight dropoff from his regular season per minute numbers and he shot substantially worse. Hell Juwan Howard's regular season 2006-07 numbers were 13-8 per 36 min.

 

Well Juwan couldn't do crap against the same Jazz team with Yao Ming. While Scola was the only legitimate post up threat we had against the Jazz. His numbers are pretty good when you look at it in that context.

 

Closest thing, might be Ginobili and Nocioni. Both guys came in as veterans on the international scene. They scored less than Scola, but only by a few points. They improved greatly and played with alot of hustle throughout their rookie seasons.


Ginobili. He came in as a 25 yr old Argentininian rookie and played on the Argentina National team with Scola. 2 year age difference.

Ginobili
02-03 7.6 pts 43.8% (25)
03-04 12.8 pts 41.8% (26)
04-05 16.0 pts 47.1% (27)

Nocioni is another player that joined the NBA late in his career and from the Argentinian National team. 2 year age difference.

Nocioni
04-05 8.4 pts 40.1% (25)
05-06 13.0 pts 46.1% (26)
06-07 14.1 46.7% (27)

Scola
07-08 10.3 pts 51.5% (27)
08-09 ???

 

It's extremely impressive for someone facing the NBA for the first time, then the NBA PLayoffs for the first time against the Jazz. Don't forget that there was no Yao, so Utah didn't do him any favors and give him breathing room.

Don't forget that Boozer and Okur were below their averages in our series too.