[Clutchfans.net] Grizzlies want(ed) Scola for Miller

Artest isn't opting out and if he did would want more than the MLE.

 

We'll give em Scola as long as we get Hakim Warrick in return :-D

 

mike miller has been sucking if anyone knew, i watched the last couple of memphis games. But he and TMAC used to be BEST friends in orlando they were talking about how he was sad when miller left to memphis, its like a giant hole everyone that goes there is never heard from again!

 

Thanks for the info, Clutch.

I find it absolutely comical that the Grizzlies are driving the price up on Mike Miller in order to look like less of fools for giving away Gasol. Like redemption for that trade is even possible?

Say no to dealing Scola for Mike Miller. I'm not saying Scola is untouchable -- i'd gladly include him in an Elton Brand S&T, for instance. But the fact of the matter is we haven't had a quality PF since Barkley. All the empty promises of the Mo Taylor's, Kenny Thomas's, Eddie Griffin's and Stromile Swift's should be reminders of that. Scola and Landry have more than proven to be quite the dynamic duo and we should keep it that way. Would Mike Miller help? Absolutely. Is he worth tinkering with a position we've struggled so badly with for years? Not in my book.

 

Agreed.
It takes time for international "old" rookies to fully develop their game.
Scola has shown enough flashes to convince me hes one of the most important piece of the puzzle.

 

I wouldn't trade Scola for a Diet Cola...

 

u remember zelck rebracca? A older international player with limited atheleticism. I don't think Scola is going downhill, but his skill level is on par with his physical ability. I've said it before, gambling on players and hoping their basketball catch up with their physical skill get coaches canned. See swift, miles, and countless others, but when u turn out right, u have kobe,tracy,howard and amare. If landry knees were to hold up, he'll be a better pro than scola. When milsap goes to another team, he's going to be better than scola. I think turiaf on the rox can produce the same if not better than scola. Scola is solid, but its not hard to replace him.

 

How many players have left Utah and improved their careers (not their wallets, their playing careers)?

Don't be dissing a quality rotation NBAer.

 

The problem with trading Scola and why the Rockets won't do it is that the West is stacked with good PFs. In our own division are David West, Tim Duncan, and Nowitzki. Then you have Boozer, Amare Stoudemire, then the Lakers have a frontline of Gasol, Odom, and Bynum when he comes back. Then Portland has LaMarcus Aldridge.

Barring trades or injuries, those guys will be around for awhile and the teams they are on are playoff contenders or up and coming like Portland. We need depth in this department and Scola fits the bill to a T on what we need in our starting PF.

I'm all for getting Miller but Miller ain't gonna guard those PFs mentioned. Someone mentioned Chris Wilcox, that guy makes double the salary of Scola, and Scola is better then him. I definitely prefer Scola then Wilcox. Scola may not be a All Star PF with 20/10 numbers but not too many PFs are as productive as him at his modest salary. I doubt Morey can find another PF that gives you what Scola gives you at his bargain price.

Last time I checked Millsap isn't on the table and Turiaf is a backup energy guy that has less skills then Scola. Again you're not going to find too many PFs like Scola at his price. David Lee, but he isn't available either.

 

As far as value, scola is a great value, but in general, he's a servicable 4 man. I think playing with tracy has to be one of the easiest jobs in the league. I mean the 4 will get 4 layups a game and that's not even debateable. Scola @28 will have some of the same problems @ 29,30, and 31. He's doesn't have any distinguishing physical skills that can help elevate his basketball skill. At his age, they're not going to appear.

Cowboybepop- This is just my theory on player development. During the Howard/Okefor draft, the debate was raging between the high school phenom vs the polished consensus #1 ncaa player. As far as physical ability, it wast even close , but okefor was more ready now. What the magic were hoping for was howard hoop skill would start to catch up with his immense atheleticism. What is on display only 4yrs later is a 22 yr old howard as 1st team all nba vs the solid okefor. To tie it in, if landry and scola work the same, landry is or will be the better player. Why? Landry is a better athelete 2x. So his ceiling is higher and he's younger. The rox didn't make that trade becuz they wouldve had to initiate another move. This summer if they make that move, they can resign landry and make a move for milsap-fa, wilcox-trade or another atheletic to pair with landry. I kinda think landry and scola are too much alike. I would like to see a rangy,atheletic 4 like tim thomas to back up the 4 spot. That's just me.

 

Actually, rumor has it that D'Antoni isn't very high on David Lee. He apparently sees him as an offensive liability.

 

Geez, if that is true the D'Antoni is a bigger idiot than I thought. Let's see if he'll trade us David Lee for Luther Head and his once upon a time great 3 point shot. LOL

 

Exactly, Shandon Anderson sure looked like a good young player on the Jazz. He might be alot better on the Rockets. Nope.

Howard Eisely, nope!

Bryon Russell, nope!

Jacque Vaughn, nope!

Scott Padgett, nope!

Carlos Arroyo, nope!

When were with the Jazz, they had their best years. Their defense was better, they got to foul alot more without being called on it.

 

I decided I should be a good contributor and track down the source of that rumor.

Mitch Lawrence
Saturday, May 17th 2008, 9:10 PM

Now that Mike D'Antoni holds the key to the machine, some Knicks could be sent packing. Martinez/Getty

Garden favorites or not, more than a few Knicks' days are probably numbered. When the Suns had a chance to draft David Lee in 2005, Mike D'Antoni opposed it, citing Lee's lack of offensive skills.

Lee hasn't developed much of a game since, and hustle and rebounding only go so far for the Knicks' new coach. In Phoenix, he wanted his big men to be scoring threats from all over the court, and that probably won't change. So that doesn't bode well for Renaldo Balkman or Randolph Morris, either.

Despite his status with fans, Lee has limited range and trouble getting his shot off in traffic. When it comes to another member of the 2005 draft, D'Antoni is much higher on Nate Robinson, whom the Suns drafted and immediately packaged with Quentin Richardson for Kurt Thomas.

"Mike doesn't like guys like Lee who can't shoot," a D'Antoni confidant said. "He saw him as a non-scoring power forward when he came out of Florida. But that's why a guy like Jamal Crawford is going to be around. He will thrive in Mike's system. And he likes Nate a lot, too. Mike likes guys who can make plays from anywhere on the court."

Even Zach Randolph will have to diversify his game. In this case, "diversify" doesn't mean shooting more, as "Zebo" probably thinks. He'll have to do more than just catch, hold, dribble, hold, hold some more, and then shoot. Eddy Curry? Who knows what he'll have to do to play in D'Antoni's system - other than the obvious fact that he will have to get into the best shape of his life. Jerome James is a candidate for a buyout or to be packaged in a deal in which the Knicks trade Lee and require the other team to take James, too. On second thought, no one can be that desperate.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/b...mike_dantoni_tosses_around_different_mix.html

Of course, I also found this:

"Crawford should be near the top of the first list, according to coaches and others familiar with D’Antoni’s system. Nate Robinson, Quentin Richardson and David Lee also figure to make the keeper list. Zach Randolph and Jerome James — the two least athletic players — should top the list of outcasts."

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/13/s....html?_r=1&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss&oref=slogin

And I'd tend to think the NYTimes is the more reliable source, but then they got weapons of mass destruction all wrong didn't they?

 

Leebigez, I'm sooooo happy that you have zero chance to become Rockets GM. Seriously, anyone who wants to trade Scola for Miller should consider seeing a psychiatrist.

 

If Memphis is looking to dump players, we could go for Stromile Swift. He's way more athletic than Scola.

 

Why? That isn't a psychiatric problem.

 

Scola brings hustle, energy and has established himself as our 3rd scorer with an all round game.

The Grizzlies are insane for even thinking about such trades. Mike Miller is nothing but a shooter and not worth the price on paper. Besides we already have this type of player and his name is Novak.

I would return the favor and pursue Miller for Head.

 

Do you have a point? Or just wanted to excercise your fingers on a keyboard?

Brand, Arenas, the Millers, Maggette, etc, etc are NOT coming to Houston. If you can't see the value of a tall athlete that can run the floor, you've been drinking too much of the Battier Kool-Aid.

You might want to play a little closer attention to the NBA game. It would improve your cred. Swift was traded to NJ at the last trade deadline.

 

If Scola does get traded for Miller, Morey has essentially traded

Spanoulis

for

Mike Miller!!


Who would have thought we would get anything out of Spanoulis?