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[ClutchFans] Luring Roy Hibbert Could Be Tough Task for Rockets

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Clutch, Apr 2, 2012.

  1. Deckard

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    Then what's the big deal? Clutch reported it, we have something to discuss, and Hibbert remains a potential target this summer.
     
  2. DaDakota

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    Look, I know some of you don't see it or think it matters, but players talk, and I don't think they speak highly of our front office.

    Just my read on the situ though....

    DD
     
  3. TEXNIFICENT

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    Don't underestimate a player's hunger for a ring. I know he lives here and has for years, but if some heavy hitters come callin for a ring run, don't be surprised if he takes the vet min somewhere else. We're not in a very good position to out recruit the true contenders of the league who'll be offering playing time and similiar money.
     
  4. DonnyMost

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    Yes, they may talk. But nothing negative can be gleaned about the management's reputation from this. Read what he said. He wasn't speaking ill of the front office. He was thankful for the way they handled it, and glad he didn't have to go somewhere and sit.
     
  5. DonnyMost

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    There is no big deal. People's lack of reading comprehension is making this into more "Morey has no people skills" drama.
     
  6. ROXTXIA

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    Bill Ingram TRG, is that you?
     
  7. CCorn

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    That's not Hibbert! That's Thabust.
     
  8. coachbadlee

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    Man **** Roy Hibbert! Our center of the future is coming out of this years draft.
     
  9. CCorn

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    Draymund Green! ;)
     
  10. thetatomatis

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    They ruined their chances if you listen to him. Told you players of his magnitude who are first rounders do not like the idea of being sent to the D-league. Just another practice that came back to bite them if Roy Hibbert comes available. D-league practice for players on their roster who are high first round picks is ridiculous. They can rationalize all they wnat but its not about the Rockets organization completely. Its also about how they treat the players and are perceived around the league and by players that counts.
     
  11. robbie380

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    People keep saying this, but if you watch a Vipers game it's pretty clear they aren't running any sort of system on offense or defense. When Patterson was down there he didn't do anything different that what he is doing now. When Morris was down there he certainly wasn't running any system on offense. He got to work on some defense at the 3, but that was all I noticed.
     
  12. thetatomatis

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    No I am no homer. This D-league crap has not always worked out. You think Aaron Brooks really appreciated his time here? Marcus Morris so far? Roy Hibberts only memory is of them telling him they would demote him to the scrub league. Thats what it is. The scrub league and an NBA psyche needs to be treated like the confident bunch of individuals they are. Not scrubs.
     
  13. CCorn

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    Hibbert being put in the D-league is way different than Morris. Hibbert would have been behind the best center in the league and one of the greatest defenders ever. Morris was stuck in the D-league behind two players probably believed he was better than.
     
  14. DaDakota

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    Donny, maybe not, but when you add up all the small comments coming from palyers around the league, I think it does say something, that players are not happy with the way we do things in Houston.

    You may be a more pragmatic person than they are, but I don't know it just reads like there is something to it.

    Again, just the way I see it, and money clearly trumps everything else, but if it comes down to equal money, I would think reputation matters.

    DD
     
  15. DaDakota

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    LOL - nope, I am not making anything up, just reading between the lines - or extrapolating out from bits and pieces said about our FO.

    DD
     
  16. DaDakota

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    EXACTLY....they are not running crap down in RG, it is up and down garbage ball, the Rox may have a say in organizational matters, but if any team has an advantage with their DLeague team it is the Spurs who OWN the Austin Toros.

    DD
     
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    Morey is a brilliant mind but he does strike me as lacking in people skills. Not a big deal but something to talk about. I picture Morey as the Sheldon character on the Big Bang Theory.

    Morey: Yes Mr. Hibbert we have calculated your value using a specialized PACE (Player Algorhithm Competition Equalizer) algorhithm designed to equalize relative competition taking into consideration exact player score of each opponent vs the game pace and the overall level of intensity as well as the relative score of your contribution to the victory including hidden variables and have rated your PACE player value to be 68.9374. That puts you at a ranking of 16 on our draft board.

    Hibbert: Wow... Really

    Morey: Precisely. We see you as a value with our 25th pick. And will draft you unless of course someone else with a higher P.A.C.E. score drops.

    Hibbert: Thanks.... I think. So how do you intend to use me.

    Morey: Obviously with Yao and Dikembe on the squad your minutes will be limited. We feel it is better to develop our players in the D-League as opposed to sitting on the bench. Expect most of your first year to be stuck down in the Rio Grande. You'll love it down there.

    Hibbert: Holy ****! Thanks for your Honesty.

    Morey: You're quite welcome Mr. Hibbert.

    Hibbert walks away and Morey turns to Adelman

    Morey: I thought that went pretty well.

    Adelman: (mumbling) Yeah, like visiting a near-sighted proctologists.

    Morey: Excuse me
     
  18. The Cat

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    Sorry, you're not considered a "high first round pick" if you aren't even in the first half of the first round.
     
  19. dobro1229

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    Im not trying to shoot the messenger, but he had to have known that this is going to give the naysayers even more to gripe about. The "Morey has no people skills" thing is just getting out of hand.

    I agree that Morey and Les should be held accountable for the way they treat players, but Its obvious here that everyone is just reaching hard for someone to blame for the Rockets not being the Heat.

    The thing Rockets fans are b****ing about is the same thing that Mavericks fans and media members bash Cuban for up here in Dallas. Its only the folks that live in Houston that think the grass is greener elsewhere. There is nothing special about the way that the Rockets front office does business. In all actuallity, its probably better than most.
     
  20. Clutch

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    This is in the story, but just as a reminder -- the Rockets deny this ever happened. Very clearly, too. They say they never told Hibbert he would go to the D-League if they drafted him.

    But clearly Hibbert remembers something. Maybe he "misremembers," Roger Clemens style, but he was very motivated by something that he associates with the Rockets. And no, he doesn't have a good memory of it.

    For the record, I wouldn't pursue Hibbert because generally you have to really overpay a restricted free agent to get him and I don't think he is worth max money. I'm sure if the Rockets offered the most money that forgiveness can't be too far behind, but all things being equal ... who knows.

    The Rockets are unique and aggressive in their use of the D-League. They've been innovative -- they were first to establish a hybrid model relationship with an NBDL affiliate (the Rockets do not own the Vipers, they simply control the basketball operations side). That's something I like about the organization and applaud, but to me, the story shows that it can be an uphill battle getting that accepted by the players and that perhaps being a leader in taking a different approach comes at a price.
     

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