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[ClutchFans] Jeremy Lin after Rockets 101-89 win over Celtics

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Clutch, Dec 14, 2012.

  1. Akim523

    Akim523 Member

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    Of course you can't be bothered, it's always easy to say something without needing to back it up.
     
  2. meh

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    ESPN has play by play. You are welcome to scrummage through it and point out any fallacies in McHale's statement. But based on memory of the game, you'd have a hard time coming up with anything.
     
  3. DreamWeaver

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    Don't bother. This guy is long in arms, long in legs. He's got to be short somewhere. :p

    And I don't mean his other head.
     
  4. micactus

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    Sorry, The world doesn't revolve around you. Just because someone doesn't agree with you doesn't mean that he is stupid.

    You are the one who said that Lin wasn't tortured AND he is on a fat contract implying that he should be happy since he got paid already, right?

    And I was responding to that.

    "But for the record, I was replying to the guy who basically said that Lin wasn't tortured. And I asked if he watched the game, implying that if he did, he would have known Lin didn't look happy on the bench. Lin is a team guy and should be happy when the team is winning unless... you can fill the blank up there.

    I asked did he know Lin because his argument that Lin isn't tortured is based on his thinking that Lin is getting paid so he should be happy about it. But anybody that knows Lin would know that he is not there just for the money."

    Who said anything like Lin in front of Rockets? Lin himself would generally put team in from of himself. And where did you get that I was a LOF? I registered LONG before Lin was known to, and LONG before you are allowed to rant here.

    If you honestly think that TD>Lin for the long term, then fine. But if not, benching Lin in the 4th quarter is good for the rocket?

    All those who are saying that a win is a win I don't care about anything else are not thinking long-term, and shouldn't be allowed to yell at the end of the semester "Oh we get the 14th pick again, why didn't we think better?"
     
  5. Akim523

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    Mchale drove Lowry out of town now he's doing this **** to Lin..I'd love to see what some of you guys reaction when TD becomes the starting PG.
     
  6. Alex L.

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    Huh? Lol... What the hell are you talking about? :confused::confused:

    And why are you still up?
     
  7. GoRockets!

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    I feel sad listening to McHale words. Everybody who watched the game knows Doglas was NOT playing well until the last 3 min when he knocked down a few 3s. I thought McHale would be better than us. Apparently, his just gave lame excuses.

    I want to remain positive and hopeful, but my heart is just sinking...
     
  8. meh

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    Bolded part is hilarious. :grin:
     
  9. Akim523

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    Why? So he has? Which year? He's been on Houston for 2 seasons now and which freakin season we were in the playoffs?
     
  10. roxxy

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    Yes somebody posted a play by play from NBA.com I never knew they had that. Usually I just do the play by play on my LP but I was lazy. Thank you for telling me ESPN has one as well.
     
  11. Skyhoop

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    Pretty much this. "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by incompetence."

    And yes, I do think the coaches are exhibiting quite a bit of incompetence and hurting the long-term development of the team, unless they truly don't see Lin as part of the future. You can't develop your young starters if you constant bench them when they're having good games (unless it's garbage minutes). It totally screws up the training and reward system, and messes with their learning curve and development. The reward system has always been that if you work hard, practice your skills, put in the effort on the court and play well, you earn more minutes. When a player does play well but gets benched, it messes with their head because then they don't know what to expect or what they need to do to earn playing time. Leads to confidence issues and confusion about how the system works.

    Also, your starters need to learn how to close out games in crunch time, if you ever expect them to have the experience under their belt to be able to do that during playoffs. You're depriving your young starters of valuable learning and valuable experience crucial to their development. Sitting them on the bench to close out quarters when they're playing well is a baffling decision.

    Don't get me wrong, I'm glad for the win. But you shouldn't sacrifice player development, especially when that player development doesn't endanger the win (he was playing well). You have to invest in your young starters and give them the experience of closing out games. Otherwise, it's as stupid as eating your seed corn.

    Either the coaches are incompetent or they don't see Lin as part of the future. I'm leaning towards the former.
     
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    Both Lin and Douglas's FG was not good from the beginning, but Mchale had patience on Douglas more than Lin.

    This is the last year of Douglas's contract. Why give him chances more than Lin?
    Lin need more big games to make into All-Stars and the coaches are screwing him.
     
  13. micactus

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    Give us some examples. You clearly know NBA more than I do so enlighten me here.

    But remind you, in the examples, the starter better be playing decent WHILE the team is winning; and the starter better be benched the entire 4th quarter.
     
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    I am a new Rockets fan. Before I did not understand it, but now I understand why Lowry wanted to get away from McHale and why Dragic would rather be in Phoenix.
     
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    that's all you care about, Lin needs big game to make it into the All star game.. smfh..
     
  16. Carl Herrera

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    People need to relax. If Lin has what it takes to make it in the NBA, he will do so despite not being in "crunch time" several times this year.

    Rick Adelman used to finish the game with Bobby Jackson instead of Bibby and, earlier, Jason Williams when they were young. Didn't prevent Bibby and Williams from having successful careers. Harden used to either sit out "crunch time" minutes or didn't get to touch the ball in them and he is doing fine now.

    Remember, Lin is no different than a number of talented young PGs with a lot to still learn now in his 2nd yr of seeing real NBA minutes. The only difference is that he got to enter free agency early and already got paid.
     
  17. nono

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    They were benched entire 4th quarters ?
     
  18. Alex L.

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    "People put you down enough, you start to believe it." ~ Vivian in "Pretty Woman"

    I hope Lin realizes that between him and McHale, he's not the idiot.
     
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    please don't feed people excuse to hate Lin or LOFs by mentioning all star thing.
     
  20. nono

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    Once you are in McHale's dog house you are toast anyways. Probably why Lowry saw that the writing was on the wall, and why Martin was so happy to be traded. McHale must have been genuinely upset when Dragic was let go because he would be the perfect player to play alongside Harden since he is a better shooter than either Lin or Lowry. Morey should have just given the option to Dragic instead of creating this kind of muddle.
     

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