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[ClutchFans] Jeremy Lin after playing just 18 minutes vs. Mavericks

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Clutch, Dec 8, 2012.

  1. Roxs

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    Want to add that with any stats, you need a lot of data. At this stage of the season, there isn't a lot of data, so small sample caveat applies. But if you look at the last 2-3 years of RAPM data for a particular player, they are pretty accurate predictors of future performance. When you do that, you can see that:

    Harden is a star.
    Lin + Asik are above average.
     
  2. Solidz75

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    Yeah I know it sounds kinda ridiculous and I thought so too. But I think Gasol's contract costs more than Lins and if Gasol is not contributing in Dantoni's new system why not?

    Now I know it's still a long shot and they will probably wait till Nash comes back before totally giving up on Gasol but I think it would make sense for the lakers if Gasol continues to falter in the new system

    Another reason, why Lakers would be more willing than other teams to get Jeremy is because of Dantoni. They saw how Lin thrived in Dantoni's system so may be willing to take a chance especially given that Nash is so old.

    If you think about it and don't think much Lin anyways, I think it would be a good trade for all parties involved. But only if the Rockets decides not to invest in his development as they have done during this season thus far.
     
  3. glacier921

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    Have you not been reading thru? It would be Asik and Lin to the Lakers. Nash is out. I'm sorry, but that's what it is. If he comes back, he probably will be injured again. They don't need Lin to be a scorer. They need him to quarterback. Asik will probably be bench, but when he replace D. Howard, Asik can still rebound.
     
  4. kianainhi

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    Who will be Rocket's PG? Douglas? Lakers have 4 PGs on their roster?
     
  5. trock

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    I like the kid, but Lin's gotta play better, simple. He has to make more of an impact on the game. For such an inexperienced player, no minutes are going be guaranteed. I thought benching him for TD was completely stupid, but at the same time, Lin's gotta give a better reason for staying on the floor than just that he's better than Toney 'please-don't-mistake-me-for-a-PG' Douglas.
     
  6. Rockets12

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    Why would we want to help the Lakers? (if Lin finds his success under Dantoni again)
     
  7. glacier921

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    Because our coaching staff hates Lin to the hilt. It started early in the Portland game, which made no sense whatsoever in the OT. The Dallas game was even worse. Rockets will help the Lakers just because the coaching staff hates him so much. Gasol isn't exactly bad either though. It's not like he can't help the Roxx.
     
  8. JeffB

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    Definitely Lin needs to stop being indecisive with the ball. It was something the opposing team's commentators would notice about him. He costs himself when he isn't definitive about shooting, driving, or passing.

    Ultimately, it is up to him to simply play better. If he did, then he would make every decision a whole lot easier for the coaches. I think the coaches want to see him push the ball up the floor more quickly and just be more aggressive overall.
     
  9. trock

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    Are we talking basketball or is this some teen drama series I walked into?
     
  10. Rockets12

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    Wait let me see if I got this right, we are going to help the Lakers just because our coaching staff hates a player? Wow. Let's just let them suffer as their players get older, Gasol is injured and is on the downside even if he is still useful. Only plus about him would be the 19 mil expiring contract for next year
     
  11. glacier921

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    We're talking about trades. I think Jlin is going with Asik to the Lakers. Makes sense. Why would you bench those 2 players in the 4th? People always talk about how Lin was disrespected, and he was. But what about Asik? Benching him was inexcusable too.
     
  12. glacier921

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    Hates a player doesn't sound reasonable? You might not know this but Bob Cousy got rid of Oscar Robertson in a Kansas city NBA team. I forgot what the name was, but it eventually became the Sac Kings. Cousy was a player and the coach on that team. Hated Robertson. Got rid of him to Milwaukee, and hold and behold, Milwaukee got their first and only championship. Melo and Woodson hated Lin. Hating a player and getting rid of them because of it does happen, as weak as human beings can be. It happens all the time.
     
  13. Rockets12

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    Ok you must be a Lakers fan
     
  14. Rockets12

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    Ok I don't care if we get rid of them due to the coach hating someone (also since we are talking about this Coaching staff, if I were Morey/les I'd get rid of the coaches before getting rid of Lin, not to mention les wants Lin for obvious reasons), I want to know why you insist on helping the Lakers. Why the Lakers?
     
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    Wrong, I hate the Lakers. They're in the Finals ALL the time. I can't stand it. The only time I would root for the Lakers is if they played the Heat in the Finals. I've been an on and off Rockets fan. Started in 1994, didn't like Jordan, hated the Knicks, and the Rockets were the only team I didn't hate. And, yes, I'm Asian, so I followed Yao his WHOLE career here in Houston. Now Lin is here, I'm back. But seriously though, Lin DID not deserve to be benched whatsoever in the Portland or Dallas game. It's almost as if he misses ONE shot, they find a reason to pull him. It really looks strange.
     
  16. Luca

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    Uh, I wouldn't go that far into hatred. I don't think the coaching staff hate Lin but I would say they don't trust him enough. There was an article mentioned by the NY media and someone posted here where they said that only the coaching staff was not that high on Lin but the owner signed him regardless.
     
  17. glacier921

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    Why Lakers? It's probably because Mike D is the only one that would get him enthusiastically. Gasol is the traditional big man that Rockets always wants. i.e. Malone, Olujawon, Yao. Gasol maybe on this list. Remember Morey did try to go after Howard, Bynum and Gasol. Lakers want to dump Gasol and his 19 million contract. Rockets coaching staff hates Lin, and maybe Asik. Lakers need a quarterback, which Lin has been great for the Rockets, though I never understood why he was benched after he makes good plays. Befuddled.
     
  18. Rockets12

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    Ok I understand you hate that he got benched (I wonder why he was benched as well) but you're still ignoring my question. Why do you badly want to help the Lakers? Sending Asik and Lin for Gasol (I assume only for him).
     
  19. glacier921

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    "not that high" means hate. It's a euphemism. I know for sure Mike D hated Melo, but do you see anywhere in the news press that specifically says "Mike D hates Melo?"
     
  20. Rockets12

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    So it's more of you wanting to help Lin, even though it helps the Lakers if he does improve. No I doubt the rockets will trade Lin just because our coaching staff "hates" him after benching him for one game.
     

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