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[ClutchFans] Jeremy Lin after playing just 18 minutes vs. Mavericks

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Clutch, Dec 8, 2012.

  1. Williamson

    Williamson JOSH CHRISTOPHER ONLY FAN

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    I disagree. There have been/are young teams with a lot more talent than ours playing at much lower levels.

    This coaching staff might not be top tier - but they're doing fine.
     
  2. i meow a lot

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    Agreed. His answers were short and simple because...he simply didn't have anything to say. He thought he played well and you can really tell from his response he seems confused and a bit sad about being benched. It's really frustration to him, because from his viewpoint, he might be thinking, anything he does, he will still not be good enough, or somehow has to work 5x as hard to be recognized. Don't give up Lin! I think instead of being emotional he needs to play with rage lol, Kobe/MJ style.
     
  3. Yao4REAL

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    I think it's a combination of things that contribute to his struggle...

    1. Osik suck and he and Lin doesn't click on pick n roll like Lin w/ Tyson Chandler. Osik sometimes get the ball wide open and still couldn't finish it...that's how bad his offense is.
    2. Lin is not making shots but....yes there is a BUT
    3. Lin was not giving the opportunity to run plays where he can attack
    4. Lin does not get the support system like he does in NY where teammates support him and fueling him with confident.
    5. Even fans here are down on him
    6. It didn't help that coach losing trust on him by sitting him

    So these are the reasons he struggle..it's a combination of things
    There is no way out but play well by himself. He's on his own despite all these factors.
     
  4. i meow a lot

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    The post above is true, I find Lin doesn't get many screens...and when 2pat sets a screen it seems like a really ****ty one and kind of not 'solid.' Sometimes Asik sets great screens but even he gets called for moving screen a lot. Maybe it's just me, but I don't really see PNR that much? I was expecting more since before the season started everyone kept saying how Lin will thrive in this system because they run a ton of PNR...

    I can definitely remember Lin trying to run PNR with Tyson a lot. Wish we had some athletic bigs - Asik is pretty sloppy catching passes at the rim, and he can't even alley oop lol.
     
  5. Ynnis888

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    I agree with you. I think he should look after himself after this game and assess what's best for him. Sometimes in pro basketball, you need an F U attitude (in a constructive way).
     
  6. i meow a lot

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    Yes I agree, as I was saying, even if I do well, I still get benched. His thinking might be, " I have no idea how to stay on the floor now..."

    But don't give up...if they don't use Lin properly, then another team will use him better hopefully.
     
  7. split41

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    In all fairness to Lin, the other starters weren't doing too flash hot either in the other 2.
     
  8. DreamWeaver

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    While Lin's benching last night does not make much sense, it is only one game. McHale's explanation of his decision at the post-game just further reinforced my earlier belief that he is not an analytical coach. I mean, how exactly do you quantify "TD brought a lot of energy into the game"?

    I disagree with your POV that coaching staff is not failing. Since when did we embrace mediocrity as acceptable? This is the Houston Rockets, home of two NBA trophies. We are the clutch city. Playing crappy defense like last two nights and for most of the season should get someone's ass fired or at least put on probation.
     
  9. Rip Van Rocket

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    Nothing happened to him tonight. He's part of a team of players, sometimes he's going to get a lot of minutes sometimes he's not. He has certainly received his fair share of minutes this season.
     
  10. Williamson

    Williamson JOSH CHRISTOPHER ONLY FAN

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    When you have the youngest team in the league, mediocrity is over-achieving. I just don't know what you guys expect.
     
  11. split41

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    Asik doesn't do interviews, so there's your answer.
     
  12. pahiyas

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    You still don't get it. Is your browser's ad blocker always on?

    Internet.
    Traffic.
    Monetization.
     
  13. Clutch

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    I think you're being ridiculous. I got Mayo, I got Harden. Lin still had not spoken, so I had time to get him. Was I supposed to not do that?

    Jeremy Lin hype may be out of control, but he is a Houston Rocket, and the starting point guard at that. The team has gotten off to slow starts and he saw a drop in minutes last night -- I'd say what he has to say could be interesting to Rockets fans.

    This is Jeremy Lin's first regular season as a Houston Rocket, so thanks for stating the obvious. You can go back to waxing nostalgic about the "Rafer sucks" and "Brooks or Lowry?" threads now.
     
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  14. DreamWeaver

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    Lack of experience is one thing. Lack of hustle is not. This team needs a coach who put emphasis on disciplines. At least IMO, this coaching staff is failing in that area.

    BTW, I've been around here a long time. Don't treat me like a newbie. :p
     
  15. YaoMac09

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    I would like it if Lin stopped being such a good little Christian, especially on the court. IMO He is indecisive because he doesn't want to make any mistakes, he wants to be liked too much and he cares too much about what others think of him on the court, and is being too unselfish...But that is not playing to his strengths, he plays his best when he doesn't give a damn and tries to attack the basket every time. I hope Lin starts attacking more in his limited minutes rather than trying to be something he is not (which is not working that well).

    On a sidenote, All the LOFs, especially those Asian ones or those that play the race card, you people are the reason why racism exists. You want to give a player special treatment purely because of his race. Why don't you guys just look at him like any other basketballer out there? Are you all that insecure?
     
  16. Williamson

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    I didn't mean to treat you like a newbie. What I meant by 'you guys' is those of you who are unsatisfied with how the Rockets are performing.

    And I think, by and large, the Rockets have hustled. But they're a young team and inconsistency is always an issue with younger teams. I mean, even in last night's game, they never gave up. A lot of young teams would have given up when the Mavs first went up by 19, but the Rockets came back and took the lead and should have even won the game. How did they do that if they weren't trying? Did the Mavs just out un-hustle us?

    Right now I can point to at least three teams that have as much or more young talent than the Rockets - the Wizards, the Cavs, and the Kings all come to mind. None of those teams are playing at anywhere near the level of the Rockets.

    I didn't expect the Rockets to win but maybe 25 games this year after the dramatic change in direction. Instead, we're on pace to be in the playoff race - and this is still relatively early in the season. The Rockets will probably continue to gel and make strides together. It's a very safe bet we haven't seen the best they have to offer as of yet.

    I'm really excited about how this team is performing and, as such, I can't much complain about the job the coaching staff is doing.
     
  17. mikol13

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    I'm not a big fan of Jeremy Lin the player, I thought his crazy run in NY was just a flash in the pan. I do appreciate Lin as a person. My hope is Lin will turn it around and become a player that can significantly contribute to the Rockets though, I'm not expecting it.

    On the topic, Lin is a Rocket so, there should never be an issue on why this player is being interviewed. ANY Rockets player interview should be welcomed on this site. Why are we here? We are here for all things Rockets.
     
  18. Cadreaming

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    ITA, especially the part in bold. I'd add that the coaches pay lip service in wanting Lin to have his confidence back. At the same time, they pulled him at the drop of a hat and openly criticized his plays in pressers. How does a player get confidence in this situation?

    Plus, they're utilizing him all wrong. They're using him like they had never watched his games before. They still haven't put in any P&R plays for him. And they used him to his weakness. Spot-up shooting isn't Lin's strengths. It's setting him up for failures. Then they criticized him for not playing well or not being confident?

    I know Rockets fans don't care for Lin fans or Lin's marketing draws. But the Rockets are killing the marketing value of its golden goose. China didn't change its broadcasting schedule to add the games of the youngest team in the league with a below .500 record for Harden or for 18-minute of Lin. Taiwan didn't broadcast the Rockets games live for Harden or for back-up minutes of Lin. Four Asian-related sponsors didn't sign on for Harden or for back-up minutes of Lin. I wouldn't be surprised if Les gets an ear-ful after the game. Lin isn't paid as the "face of the franchise" but he is exactly that, to lots of broadcasters and sponsors. Lin has more followings than the rest of the team combined. The coaching staff is setting the team's star up for failures and devaluing his market value. I have never seen such a stupid move by any professional sports team.
     
  19. DreamWeaver

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    I am always overly optimistic about Rockets. Maybe that's why I am so disappointed by their defensive efforts so far.

    Their comeback last night was encouraging. It showed that they didn't give up after being down by 19 points. However, their defense in the fourth quarter was inexcusable. McHale's refusal to put fresh legs on the court at the backend of a back-to-back is inexcusable. The way our team defense broke down in the last three minutes was inexcusable.

    And let me just clarify that this has nothing to do with Lin's benching.
     
  20. Cadreaming

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    Very well said!
     

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