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[ClutchFans] Houston Rockets Salary Cap Update: 2015 Offseason Pre-Draft Edition

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by BimaThug, Jun 3, 2015.

  1. basketballholic

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    Personal reasons eh???


    Winning a championship is not personal, dobro. It's very public. Wake up. It's about winning a championship. LOL. Stop with the r****ded "personal reasons". Your posts are 90% personal reasons. You want to win a personal post joust with everybody you disagree with. LOL You're hilarious. Now you're trying to cover up what you've done here for the last 2 seasons basically with this "I'm okay if we trade Terrence for an upgrade." bit. LOL

    There was a tremendous PUMP for Terrence the whole season of 2013-14 and you were one of the ringleaders of it.

    I was right about Terrence in December of 2013 when I said I thought he would be a liability for us in the playoffs and was not the answer for us because he could not maintain decent shooting percentages. I was right when I told you that if he were in the rotation that we were not championship caliber. I was right when I told you that we would not win in the playoffs if he were in the rotation or starting. I was right when I told you that our best shot at beating Portland was to play Dwight and Asik together and to limit Terrence's minutes to the bare minimum. And I was right when I told you this season that nothing had changed, that if Terrence were playing major rotation minutes for us in the playoffs that we could not win a championship.

    And every time I made it clear that there was no personal vendetta against Terrence. but all those things you repeatedly denied. You denied the facts about Terrence, kept making excuses for him, kept pointing out when he looked good in the box score, kept pointing out all the individual games that we won where Terrence stat line looked good. And you continually jumped me and told me how crazy it was when I told the board that he wasn't the answer and why he wasn't the answer.

    I am right about Terrence. I'm sorry I'm right. But I'm right about Terrence and have been right about Terrence since late 2013. Terrence is NOT a championship caliber ball player at this point in his career. He just doesn't have the skill to be in the rotation of a championship caliber team. Sure he could win a ring as the 10-15th man on an NBA roster. But I'm talking about the primary rotation guys. The top 8 guys. Terrence is not good enough to be one of the top 8 guys in a championship team rotation. Because he has too many holes in his game and is too easy to expose in mismatches defensively and fading off him when he has the ball on the offensive end.

    And this continued on and on and on because you make it personal instead of just having a discussion about the team and what's best for this team to win a championship. Get over it.

    Now we've wasted 2 post-seasons with Terrence and all that overwhelming support for him on this board has dissipated. Even the common fan has realized how crappy his play was. But you're still here trying to water down and downplay the negativity about Terrence and modulate your argument in favor of Terrence as you step away from supporting him. Now....after 2 wasted post seasons...you will move him for an upgrade.

    You're late, dobro. You're late. You should've seen clearly after the Portland series that Terrence was a negative drag on this team when on-court. But you weren't willing to admit it. Give him another year. He's young, etc. etc. etc. Now we are here, a year later, and Terrence only got more EXPOSED this whole season and most definitely in the post season, which is what I told you would happen after teams saw him against Portland. He was even WORSE this playoffs than he was against Portland.

    Terrence was soooo bad in this year's playoffs that we would have been better off to have given him away when we signed Josh Smith and kept Tarik Black! At least Black would've showed up and rebounded and banged and been physical!!!

    So, give it up. Admit it. You were wrong. Admit you made it personal. You picked on a dissenting opinion to your own and kept driving it for a year and a half.

    Get over yourself already.
     
  2. a711

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    After seeing the CLE series vs GSW, I don't think this is that ridiculous.
     
  3. BimaThug

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    basketballholic and dobro, please keep your personal arguments out of this thread. That stuff may be okay in the "cyberx" thread, but I kindly ask that both of you avoid that here. Thanks.
     
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    LOL I don't know why. You got a team that just went to WCF with two 37 year PGs and no Patrick Beverly, lots of people want dramatic changes LOL. Their very close and need to address the PG position (hope LLull comes over) and hopefully Beverly signs a deal or is matched without a poison pill contract from some other team. The time is now. A PG tandem of Llull and Beverly would be insane. Get some rebounders to help the PF position and get a SG to help relieve Harden and your set. The chemistry is the hardest part and its already there.
     
  5. basketballholic

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    No problem. I only respond to about 1/10th off them anyways.
     
  6. dobro1229

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    Thats fine. But I would think that you'd also want to keep out loaded argument points as well. That's all I was trying to prevent. If Hollic wants to load up his forces on a personal vendetta against Jones I think he should do it elsewhere. That was my only point in responding to that nonsense. Little did I know (even though I though I should have) that we'd get a half page dissertation of why Jones is complete crap, I'm a Jones only fan (which I'm not), and why I'm not a Rockets fan because I won't support his campaign to rid the world of Terrence Jones.

    But yes.. I'll let you know take care of deciphering, and bringing attention to that in your threads from now on. Carry on.
     
  7. dragician

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    thankss Bima.
     
  8. basketballholic

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    NOTE:

    Today's salary cap was set at $70 million.



    What this means is if the Rockets want to operate below the cap, they can still choose to do that before they re-up Beverley and Brewer. They could drop Koastas' and Pablo's non-guaranteed deals, drop Smith's cap hold, and create $4.1 to $4.6 million of cap room (depending on whether they can trade away Pablo with cash or negotiate away is $400,000 guarantee).

    So, until Bev and Brewer actually sign their deals there is still this possibility.

    Why am I mentioning it?

    Because depending on what McDaniels signs his offer sheet for and what trades we get, it might be beneficial for us to actually dip under the cap. If we can't find a trade for Kostas/Pablo then we might have to simply drop them b4 they become fully guaranteed. If KJ's offer sheet comes in at say $2.5 million starting salary, then we could conceivably re-sign him with cap space, and still have $2.6 million or so left over to sign Smith or another player with cap space and still have the room MLE left over to use later. Or alternatively, we could sign Smith for the room under the cap and give him $4-4.5 million, then match McDaniels' deal using the room MLE.

    The bump up to $70 million was higher than anybody expected. Although I have a tendacy to believe that we are still going to make a trade using Kostas/Pablo's/others salaries if everything else falls through there is a greater possibility of dipping under the cap to keep our guys.

    Of course, if Bev and Brewer go ahead and sign their deals then going under the cap becomes impossible. We'll see soon how long it takes those guys to sign. If they don't sign in the next couple days then obviously Morey is asking them to hold on so he can have the under the cap option still at his disposal.
     
  9. J Sizzle

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    After what happened with DJ and the Mavs today...sign the damn papers and get it done with ASAP
     

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