1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

ClutchFans Game Thread: Suns @ Rockets 4/7/2016

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Clutch, Apr 7, 2016.

  1. Karolik

    Karolik Member

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 2010
    Messages:
    5,405
    Likes Received:
    151
    happy we lost. Who r we playing next? I'm going to root for them.
     
  2. for-three

    for-three Member

    Joined:
    Feb 11, 2016
    Messages:
    106
    Likes Received:
    33
    It's crazy to think Harden has played the entire 2nd half of games for this long of a stretch (8-10 games), back-to-backs included. Beyond the obvious risk of injury from overextended minutes, the strategy has backfired. They have been in a number of close games recently, only to fade in the final minutes. Harden looks worn down, with little to nothing left in the tank for the 4th quarter. You can't run players into the ground and expect them to play with pace. I just think you have to rely/trust the bench and if they fail, so be it. Continuing to play someone 44 minutes a game for an extended period of time, doesn't seem like a viable option.
     
  3. dkoune

    dkoune Rookie

    Joined:
    Jun 26, 2008
    Messages:
    2,850
    Likes Received:
    763
    Ghe funny thing is jbb didnt have to olay harden so much if he kbew what he was doin. Smh
     
  4. Mr. Clutch

    Mr. Clutch Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Nov 8, 2002
    Messages:
    46,550
    Likes Received:
    6,131
    Other teams backcourt scrubs always get hot against us.

    Weird, I guess it's just bad luck.
     
  5. for-three

    for-three Member

    Joined:
    Feb 11, 2016
    Messages:
    106
    Likes Received:
    33
    What a nightmare season this has been. That sinking feeling, when you realize you just wasted the past 6 months of your life watching this train wreck of a team. There weren't really even any fun moments, every minor win streak was followed by crushing losses. From WCF one year, to laughing stock of the league the next.
     
  6. nnayak

    nnayak Member

    Joined:
    Jan 31, 2010
    Messages:
    479
    Likes Received:
    6
    Can you believe Brewer makes 8 MILLION dollars?
     
  7. nnayak

    nnayak Member

    Joined:
    Jan 31, 2010
    Messages:
    479
    Likes Received:
    6
    Exactly, so stupid. Take him out for like 2 mins at least at the end of the 3rd. JB seriously is one of the worst coaches of all time. I hate him with a passion!!
     
  8. Verbal Christ

    Verbal Christ Member

    Joined:
    Feb 20, 2009
    Messages:
    17,590
    Likes Received:
    27,203
    It's over. RIP 2015-2016 Houston Rockets
     
  9. HayesIsBack

    HayesIsBack Member

    Joined:
    Jul 29, 2015
    Messages:
    1,975
    Likes Received:
    337
    Harden's poor D and Beverley's overstated D.
     
  10. HayesIsBack

    HayesIsBack Member

    Joined:
    Jul 29, 2015
    Messages:
    1,975
    Likes Received:
    337
    McHale Minnesota club, extension of the Celtics boys club
     
  11. HayesIsBack

    HayesIsBack Member

    Joined:
    Jul 29, 2015
    Messages:
    1,975
    Likes Received:
    337

    The thing is, this was the season Morey moved away from his Moreyball approach.

    THE Brewer and Beverley contracts are unlike anything Morey had ever done, tying up $14m per season on two guys at contracts that make them virtually liabilities or untradable. At least you can say Lin was Les or still had potential upside when Morey signed him.

    Some might disagree about Beverley, but he is a 2nd to 3rd PG in this league without a Harden next to him.

    What im saying is that, is it Moreyball that failed us or Morey's move away from Moreyball? We could probably have still salvaged our season if Brewer or Beverley were movable.
     
  12. Crutch City

    Crutch City Member

    Joined:
    Dec 23, 2012
    Messages:
    374
    Likes Received:
    97
    Post-Season analysis starts here...:confused::confused::confused:
     
  13. conquistador#11

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 2006
    Messages:
    36,107
    Likes Received:
    22,594
    the biggest acquisition we can make and have no control over is for harden to mature. Because we know how the durant coming to houston is going to play out...done deal until the last minute when durant tells morley no.
     
  14. HayesIsBack

    HayesIsBack Member

    Joined:
    Jul 29, 2015
    Messages:
    1,975
    Likes Received:
    337
    Keep Capel . Not KJ
     
  15. calcium

    calcium Member

    Joined:
    Mar 16, 2013
    Messages:
    937
    Likes Received:
    102
    I dont get it.

    What is different about this team from last season's team?

    Essentially all the same players.
     
  16. valorita

    valorita Member

    Joined:
    Feb 17, 2009
    Messages:
    3,101
    Likes Received:
    1,765
    Last year was fluke.
    A deception that made players and the team think that they were better than they are.
    This year is closer to reality.
     
  17. BigShasta

    BigShasta Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Apr 26, 2014
    Messages:
    5,211
    Likes Received:
    4,812
    Lmao. I can totally see this happening
     
  18. dkoune

    dkoune Rookie

    Joined:
    Jun 26, 2008
    Messages:
    2,850
    Likes Received:
    763
    Damn it i forgot capela the goat
     
  19. hakeemthagreat

    Joined:
    Oct 31, 2014
    Messages:
    6,127
    Likes Received:
    4,103
    It's simple. Teams figured us out. It's not like our offense has plays to get guys open. Our offense is 75% based off James Harden's ISO. Harden has more ISO's than the whole GS franchise this year. Instead of open up the offense, or adjust, we kept running ISO's to insure Harden got his stats. This is why our season has been the most disappointing. We sucked all season and cared more about appeasing our entitled superstar than winning.


    In Morey we Trust:rolleyes:
     
  20. count_dough-ku

    count_dough-ku Contributing Member

    Joined:
    May 19, 2002
    Messages:
    17,603
    Likes Received:
    9,053
    Let me take a crack at it:

    Howard - He's healthier obviously, but the athleticism is waning and he's simply nowhere near the same player anymore. Remember when he came back from injury the first time last season and was mediocre for about 19 games before he got hurt again? That's basically how he's played the entire year.

    T-Jones - Also healthier, but he's had an awful year even by his low standards. Jones has basically been exposed as a complete scrub.

    D-Mo - Never really recovered from the back injury. Who knows if he ever will and who really cares at this point since there's no way he'll be here next season?

    Smith - Wasn't even around for the first half of the season, but since his return, he's looked over the hill just like he did in LA. Smith's a guy much like Dwight who was heavily reliant on his athleticism. Now that that's gone, he's no longer an effective NBA player.

    Ariza - He's 30 now and it looks like he's starting to decline physically as well. It doesn't help that so much is asked of him on defense considering Harden refuses to play any, so fatigue on top of age is wearing on him. Plus he's almost always been a streaky shooter, and this year is no exception.

    Bev - He's really never regained his form from 3 seasons ago when he pestered Westbrook in that OKC series. Bev will occasionally get hot from 3, but his defense is a joke compared to what it used to be and he's never been able to create on offense. He has managed to at least stay healthy though for once.

    Brewer - A complete disaster. He had an overall good season last year for the Rockets, so I get why they wanted to resign him. But this year's basically been like you took all his worst moments from last season and projected them onto all 82 games. He's never really been able to shoot, but this season, he hasn't done anything well. It doesn't help that he's useless on the fast break since we struggle to get stops or grab defensive boards when we do.

    Terry - Washed up. Finished. He wasn't that good honestly last season either, but I figured coming into this year that he'd be the third stringer behind Ty and Bev. To need him for more than 5 minutes a night means you've got a very weak PG rotation.

    Capela - He's had his moments this season, but IMO he's about the same as he was last year. He hasn't really advanced the way I'd hoped and he's regressed at the foul line compared to last season's playoff run where he'd upped his free throw shooting above 50%.

    Harden - One of the only bright spots on this roster and even he's taken a step back from last season. In fairness, it ain't easy playing at an MVP level every year, but he came into camp out of shape and unfocused and his defense has regressed back to where it was a couple of seasons ago when compilation videos on YouTube were mocking his lack of effort. Still a terrific offensive player, but this is probably his worst season as a Rocket.

    I'm excluding new additions like Ty, Thornton, Harrell, and Beasley and just focusing on the holdovers. When you look at the total sum of the returning players, you see that no one except for maybe Capela has matched last year's output. Everyone else even if healthier and suited up for more games has been worse. In some cases(D-Mo, Brewer, Smith), much much much worse. Add to that the horrible coaching from McHale and JB, the complete lack of chemistry or professionalism, and the tougher Eastern Conference which no longer allowed the Rockets to fatten up on easy competition in 30 of their 82 games and you have a recipe for disaster.

    Which is why we're now in blow it up and rebuild mode whether Morey and Les wanna admit it or not.
     
    2 people like this.

Share This Page

  • About ClutchFans

    Since 1996, ClutchFans has been loud and proud covering the Houston Rockets, helping set an industry standard for team fan sites. The forums have been a home for Houston sports fans as well as basketball fanatics around the globe.

  • Support ClutchFans!

    If you find that ClutchFans is a valuable resource for you, please consider becoming a Supporting Member. Supporting Members can upload photos and attachments directly to their posts, customize their user title and more. Gold Supporters see zero ads!


    Upgrade Now